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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cohuck@redhat.com, zhenyuw@linux.intel.com, zhi.a.wang@intel.com,
	kevin.tian@intel.com, shaopeng.he@intel.com, yi.l.liu@intel.com,
	xin.zeng@intel.com, hang.yuan@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 07/10] vfio/pci: introduce a new irq type VFIO_IRQ_TYPE_REMAP_BAR_REGION
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 10:43:07 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200601104307.259b0fe1@x1.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200601065726.GA5906@joy-OptiPlex-7040>

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 02:57:26 -0400
Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com> wrote:

> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 03:45:47PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 May 2020 22:52:45 -0400
> > Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > This is a virtual irq type.
> > > vendor driver triggers this irq when it wants to notify userspace to
> > > remap PCI BARs.
> > > 
> > > 1. vendor driver triggers this irq and packs the target bar number in
> > >    the ctx count. i.e. "1 << bar_number".
> > >    if a bit is set, the corresponding bar is to be remapped.
> > > 
> > > 2. userspace requery the specified PCI BAR from kernel and if flags of
> > > the bar regions are changed, it removes the old subregions and attaches
> > > subregions according to the new flags.
> > > 
> > > 3. userspace notifies back to kernel by writing one to the eventfd of
> > > this irq.
> > > 
> > > Please check the corresponding qemu implementation from the reply of this
> > > patch, and a sample usage in vendor driver in patch [10/10].
> > > 
> > > Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
> > > ---
> > >  include/uapi/linux/vfio.h | 11 +++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/vfio.h b/include/uapi/linux/vfio.h
> > > index 2d0d85c7c4d4..55895f75d720 100644
> > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/vfio.h
> > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/vfio.h
> > > @@ -704,6 +704,17 @@ struct vfio_irq_info_cap_type {
> > >  	__u32 subtype;  /* type specific */
> > >  };
> > >  
> > > +/* Bar Region Query IRQ TYPE */
> > > +#define VFIO_IRQ_TYPE_REMAP_BAR_REGION			(1)
> > > +
> > > +/* sub-types for VFIO_IRQ_TYPE_REMAP_BAR_REGION */
> > > +/*
> > > + * This irq notifies userspace to re-query BAR region and remaps the
> > > + * subregions.
> > > + */
> > 
> > Hi Yan,
> > 
> > How do we do this in a way that's backwards compatible?  Or maybe, how
> > do we perform a handshake between the vendor driver and userspace to
> > indicate this support?  
> hi Alex
> thank you for your thoughtful review!
> do you think below sequence can provide enough backwards compatibility?
> - on vendor driver opening, it registers an irq of type
>   VFIO_IRQ_TYPE_REMAP_BAR_REGION, and reports to driver vfio-pci there's
>   1 vendor irq.
> - after userspace detects the irq of type VFIO_IRQ_TYPE_REMAP_BAR_REGION
>   it enables it by signaling ACTION_TRIGGER.
> - on receiving this ACTION_TRIGGER, vendor driver will try to setup a
>   virqfd to monitor file write to the fd of this irq, enable this irq
>   and return its enabling status to userspace.

I'm not sure I follow here, what's the purpose of the irqfd?  When and
what does the user signal by writing to the irqfd?  Is this an ACK
mechanism?  Is this a different fd from the signaling eventfd?

> > Would the vendor driver refuse to change
> > device_state in the migration region if the user has not enabled this
> > IRQ?  
> yes, vendor driver can refuse to change device_state if the irq
> in my sample i40e_vf driver (patch 10/10), it implemented this logic
> like below:
> i40e_vf_set_device_state
>     |          ret = i40e_vf_prepare_dirty_track(i40e_vf_dev);
>                               |->ret = i40e_vf_remap_bars(i40e_vf_dev, true);
> 			                     |->if (!i40e_vf_dev->remap_irq_ctx.init)
>                                                     return -ENODEV;
> (i40e_vf_dev->remap_irq_ctx.init is set in below path)
> i40e_vf_ioctl(cmd==VFIO_DEVICE_SET_IRQS)
>     |->i40e_vf_set_irq_remap_bars
>        |->i40e_vf_enable_remap_bars_irq
>            |-> vf_dev->remap_irq_ctx.init = true;

This should be a documented aspect of the uapi, not left to vendor
discretion to implement.
> > 
> > Everything you've described in the commit log needs to be in this
> > header, we can't have the usage protocol buried in a commit log.  It  
> got it! I'll move all descriptions in commit logs to this header so that
> readers can understand the whole picture here.
> > also seems like this is unnecessarily PCI specific.  Can't the count
> > bitmap simply indicate the region index to re-evaluate?  Maybe you were  
> yes, it is possible. but what prevented me from doing it is that it's not
> easy to write an irq handler in qemu to remap other regions dynamically.
> for BAR regions, there're 3 layers as below.
> 1. bar->mr  -->bottom layer
> 2. bar->region.mem --> slow path
> 3. bar->region->mmaps[i].mem  --> fast path
> so, bar remap irq handler can simply re-revaluate the region and
> remove/re-generate the layer 3 (fast path) without losing track of any
> guest accesses to the bar regions.
> actually so far, the bar remap irq handler in qemu only supports remap
> mmap'd subregions (layout of mmap'd subregions are re-queried) and
> not supports updating the whole bar region size.
> (do you think updating bar region size is a must?)

It depends on whether our interrupt is defined that the user should
re-evaluate the entire region_info or just the spare mmap capability.
A device spontaneously changing region size seems like a much more
abstract problem.  We do need to figure out how to support resizeable
BARs, but it seems that would be at the direction of the user, for
example emulating the resizeable BAR capability and requiring userspace
to re-evaluate the region_info after interacting with that emulation.
So long as we specify that this IRQ is limited to re-evaluating the
sparse mmap capability for the indicated regions, I don't think we need
to handle the remainder of region_info spontaneously changing.

> however, there are no such fast path and slow path in other regions, so
> remap handlers for them are region specific.

QEMU support for re-evaluating arbitrary regions for sparse mmap
changes should not limit our kernel implementation.  Maybe it does
suggest though that userspace should be informed of the region indexes
subject to re-evaluation such that it can choose to ignore this
interrupt (and lose the features enabled by the IRQ), if it doesn't
support re-evaluating all of the indicated regions.  For example the
capability could include a bitmap indicating regions that might be
signaled and the QEMU driver might skip registering an eventfd via
SET_IRQS if support for non-BAR region indexes is indicated as a
requirement.  I'd really prefer if we can design this to not be limited
to PCI BARs.

> > worried about running out of bits in the ctx count?  An IRQ per region  
> yes. that's also possible :) 
> but current ctx count is 64bit, so it can support regions of index up to 63.
> if we don't need to remap dev regions, seems it's enough?

This is the kind of decision we might look back on 10yrs later and
wonder how we were so short sighted, but yes it does seem like enough
and we can define additional IRQs for each of the next 64 region
indexes if we need too.
> > could resolve that, but maybe we could also just add another IRQ for
> > the next bitmap of regions.  I assume that the bitmap can indicate
> > multiple regions to re-evaluate, but that should be documented.  
> hmm. would you mind elaborating more about it?

I'm just confirming that the usage expectation would allow the user to
be signaled with multiple bits in the bitmap set and the user is
expected to re-evaluate each region index sparse bitmap.

> > Also, what sort of service requirements does this imply?  Would the
> > vendor driver send this IRQ when the user tries to set the device_state
> > to _SAVING and therefore we'd require the user to accept, implement the
> > mapping change, and acknowledge the IRQ all while waiting for the write
> > to device_state to return?  That implies quite a lot of asynchronous
> > support in the userspace driver.  Thanks,  
> yes.
> (1) when user sets device_state to _SAVING, the vendor driver notifies this
> IRQ, waits until user IRQ ack is received.
> (2) in IRQ handler, user decodes and sends IRQ ack to vendor driver.
> if a wait is required in (1) returns, it demands the qemu_mutex_iothread is
> not locked in migration thread when device_state is set in (1), as before
> entering (2), acquiring of this mutex is required.
> Currently, this lock is not hold in vfio_migration_set_state() at
> save_setup stage but is hold in stop and copy stage. so we wait in
> kernel in save_setup stage and not wait in stop stage.
> it can be fixed by calling qemu_mutex_unlock_iothread() on entering
> vfio_migration_set_state() and qemu_mutex_lock_iothread() on leaving
> vfio_migration_set_state() in qemu.
> do you think it's acceptable?

I'm not thrilled by it, it seems a bit tricky for both userspace and
the vendor driver to get right.  Userspace needs to handle this eventfd
while blocked on write(2) into a region, which for QEMU means
additional ioctls to retrieve new REGION_INFO, closing some mmaps,
maybe opening other mmaps, which implies new layering of MemoryRegion
sub-regions and all of the calls through KVM to implement those address
space changes.  The vendor driver must also be able to support
concurrency of handling the REGION_INFO ioctl, new calls to mmap
regions, and maybe vm_ops.close and vm_ops.fault.  These regions might
also be IOMMU mapped, so re-evaluating the sparse mmap could result in
DMA maps and unmaps, which the vendor driver might see via the notify
forcing it to unpin pages.  How would the vendor driver know when to
unblock the write to device_state, would it look for vm_ops.close on
infringing vmas or are you thinking of an ACK via irqfd?  I wouldn't
want to debug lockups as a result of this design :-\

What happens if the mmap re-evaluation occurs asynchronous to the
device_state write?  The vendor driver can track outstanding mmap vmas
to areas it's trying to revoke, so the vendor driver can know when
userspace has reached an acceptable state (assuming we require
userspace to munmap areas that are no longer valid).  We should also
consider what we can accomplish by invalidating user mmaps, ex. can we
fault them back in on a per-page basis and continue to mark them dirty
in the migration state, re-invalidating on each iteration until they've
finally been closed.   It seems the vendor driver needs to handle
incrementally closing each mmap anyway, there's no requirement to the
user to stop the device (ie. block all access), make these changes,
then restart the device.  So perhaps the vendor driver can "limp" along
until userspace completes the changes.  I think we can assume we are in
a cooperative environment here, userspace wants to perform a migration,
disabling direct access to some regions is for mediating those accesses
during migration, not for preventing the user from accessing something
they shouldn't have access to, userspace is only delaying the migration
or affecting the state of their device by not promptly participating in
the protocol.

Another problem I see though is what about p2p DMA?  If the vendor
driver invalidates an mmap we're removing it from both direct CPU as
well as DMA access via the IOMMU.  We can't signal to the guest OS that
a DMA channel they've been using is suddenly no longer valid.  Is QEMU
going to need to avoid ever IOMMU mapping device_ram for regions
subject to mmap invalidation?  That would introduce an undesirable need
to choose whether we want to support p2p or migration unless we had an
IOMMU that could provide dirty tracking via p2p, right?  Thanks,


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-01 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-18  2:42 [RFC PATCH v4 00/10] Introduce vendor ops in vfio-pci Yan Zhao
2020-05-18  2:43 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/10] vfio/pci: register/unregister vfio_pci_vendor_driver_ops Yan Zhao
2020-05-18  2:45 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/10] vfio/pci: macros to generate module_init and module_exit for vendor modules Yan Zhao
2020-06-04 15:01   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-05  2:05     ` Yan Zhao
2020-05-18  2:49 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/10] vfio/pci: export vendor_data, irq_type, num_regions, pdev and functions in vfio_pci_ops Yan Zhao
2020-05-18  2:49 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/10] vfio/pci: let vfio_pci know number of vendor regions and vendor irqs Yan Zhao
2020-06-04 15:25   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-05  2:15     ` Yan Zhao
2020-06-11 12:31       ` David Edmondson
2020-06-11 23:09         ` Yan Zhao
2020-05-18  2:50 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/10] vfio/pci: export vfio_pci_get_barmap Yan Zhao
2020-05-18  2:50 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/10] vfio: Define device specific irq type capability Yan Zhao
2020-05-18  2:52 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/10] vfio/pci: introduce a new irq type VFIO_IRQ_TYPE_REMAP_BAR_REGION Yan Zhao
2020-05-18  2:56   ` [QEMU RFC PATCH v4] hw/vfio/pci: remap bar region irq Yan Zhao
2020-05-29 21:45   ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/10] vfio/pci: introduce a new irq type VFIO_IRQ_TYPE_REMAP_BAR_REGION Alex Williamson
2020-06-01  6:57     ` Yan Zhao
2020-06-01 16:43       ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2020-06-02  8:28         ` Yan Zhao
2020-06-02 19:34           ` Alex Williamson
2020-06-03  1:40             ` Yan Zhao
2020-06-03 23:04               ` Alex Williamson
2020-06-04  2:42                 ` Yan Zhao
2020-06-04  4:10                   ` Alex Williamson
2020-06-05  0:26                     ` He, Shaopeng
2020-06-05 17:54                       ` Alex Williamson
2020-06-05  2:02                     ` Yan Zhao
2020-06-05 16:13                       ` Alex Williamson
2020-06-10  5:23                         ` Yan Zhao
2020-06-19 22:55                           ` Alex Williamson
2020-06-22  3:34                             ` Yan Zhao
2020-05-18  2:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/10] i40e/vf_migration: VF live migration - pass-through VF first Yan Zhao
2020-06-10  8:59   ` Xiang Zheng
2020-06-11  0:23     ` Yan Zhao
2020-06-11  2:27       ` Xiang Zheng
2020-06-11 23:10         ` Yan Zhao
2020-05-18  2:54 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/10] i40e/vf_migration: register a migration vendor region Yan Zhao
2020-05-18  2:54 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/10] i40e/vf_migration: vendor defined irq_type to support dynamic bar map Yan Zhao

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