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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] vfio: remove the unused mdev iommu hook
Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 10:31:43 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210514133143.GK1096940@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR11MB18866205125E566FE05867A78C509@MWHPR11MB1886.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 12:58:10PM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:

> This avoids changing every iommu ops to include a PASID and forcing
> the upper-layer drivers to do it differently between pdev and mdev.
> Actually this was a main motivation when working out aux domain
> proposal with Joerg two years ago.

Well, usually when people say stuff like that it means it is a hack..

Oh, this does look like a big hack, yes.

/dev/ioasid is focused on IOASIDs. As an API you have to be able to use
it to create all kinds of IOASID's *against a single HW struct
device*.

In this world you can't create domains for every struct device as hack
to pass in the PASID.

The IOASID itself must be an object that contains the HW struct device
and the PASID. IOASID must be a first class object in the entire API.

Remember, when a driver wants to connect to an IOASID it wants to make
some very simple calls like:

   iommu_attach_ioasid_rid(&pci_device->dev, ioasid_ptr);
   iommu_attach_ioasid_pasid(&pci_device->dev, ioasid_ptr);

Which is based *only* on what the PCI device does. If the device issues
TLPs without PASID then the driver must use the first. If the device
issues TLPs with a PASID then the driver must use the latter.

There is no place for "domain as a carrier of PASID"
there. mdev_device should NOT participate in the IOMMU layer because
it is NOT a HW device. Trying to warp mdev_device into an IOMMU
presence is already the source of a lot of this hacky code.

To juggle multiple IOASID per HW device the IOMMU API obviously has to
be made IOASID aware. It can't just blindly assume that a struct
device implies the single IOASID to use and hope for the best.

> The reason is that iommu domain represents an IOVA address
> space shareable by multiple devices. It should be created at the 
> point where the address space is managed. 

IOASID represents the IOVA address space.

Two concepts that represent the same thing is not great :)

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-14 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-10  6:53 more iommu dead code removal Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-10  6:54 ` [PATCH 1/6] iommu: remove the unused dev_has_feat method Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-10  6:54 ` [PATCH 2/6] iommu: remove the unused iommu_aux_get_pasid interface Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-10  6:54 ` [PATCH 3/6] vfio: remove the unused mdev iommu hook Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-10 15:54   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-13  3:28     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-05-13 12:00       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-14  6:27         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-05-14  6:54         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-05-14 12:19           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-14 12:58             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-05-14 13:31               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-05-17 12:22                 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-05-17 12:30                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-17 12:53                     ` Joerg Roedel
2021-05-17 13:35                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-17 15:35                         ` Joerg Roedel
2021-05-19 15:23                           ` Robin Murphy
2021-05-19 18:06                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-19 23:12                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-05-19 23:24                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-20 14:13                                   ` Robin Murphy
2021-05-20 14:34                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-24 18:18                                       ` Robin Murphy
2021-05-25  0:00                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-30  9:08                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-22 13:34                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-23  5:36                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-23  5:41                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-23  5:44                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-22  6:02                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-05-14 13:17         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-05-14 13:39           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-14 14:28             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-05-14 14:44               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-10  6:54 ` [PATCH 4/6] iommu: remove iommu_aux_{attach,detach}_device Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-10  6:54 ` [PATCH 5/6] iommu: remove IOMMU_DEV_FEAT_AUX Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-10  6:54 ` [PATCH 6/6] iommu: remove iommu_dev_feature_enabled Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-10 11:54 ` more iommu dead code removal Jason Gunthorpe

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