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From: Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
	frankja@linux.ibm.com, thuth@redhat.com, pasic@linux.ibm.com,
	david@redhat.com, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/11] KVM: s390: pv: implement lazy destroy
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:19:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210518181922.52d04c61@ibm-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210518180411.4abf837d.cohuck@redhat.com>

On Tue, 18 May 2021 18:04:11 +0200
Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 18 May 2021 17:36:24 +0200
> Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 18 May 2021 17:05:37 +0200
> > Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Mon, 17 May 2021 22:07:47 +0200
> > > Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com> wrote:  
> 
> > > > This means that the same address space can have memory
> > > > belonging to more than one protected guest, although only one
> > > > will be running, the others will in fact not even have any
> > > > CPUs.      
> > > 
> > > Are those set-aside-but-not-yet-cleaned-up pages still possibly
> > > accessible in any way? I would assume that they only belong to
> > > the    
> > 
> > in case of reboot: yes, they are still in the address space of the
> > guest, and can be swapped if needed
> >   
> > > 'zombie' guests, and any new or rebooted guest is a new entity
> > > that needs to get new pages?    
> > 
> > the rebooted guest (normal or secure) will re-use the same pages of
> > the old guest (before or after cleanup, which is the reason of
> > patches 3 and 4)  
> 
> Took a look at those patches, makes sense.
> 
> > 
> > the KVM guest is not affected in case of reboot, so the userspace
> > address space is not touched.  
> 
> 'guest' is a bit ambiguous here -- do you mean the vm here, and the
> actual guest above?
> 

yes this is tricky, because there is the guest OS, which terminates or
reboots, then there is the "secure configuration" entity, handled by the
Ultravisor, and then the KVM VM

when a secure guest reboots, the "secure configuration" is dismantled
(in this case, in a deferred way), and the KVM VM (and its memory) is
not directly affected

what happened before was that the secure configuration was dismantled
synchronously, and then re-created.

now instead, a new secure configuration is created using the same KVM
VM (and thus the same mm), before the old secure configuration has been
completely dismantled. hence the same KVM VM can have multiple secure
configurations associated, sharing the same address space.

of course, only the newest one is actually running, the other ones are
"zombies", without CPUs.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-18 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-17 20:07 [PATCH v1 00/11] KVM: s390: pv: implement lazy destroy Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-17 20:07 ` [PATCH v1 01/11] KVM: s390: pv: leak the ASCE page when destroy fails Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-18 10:26   ` Janosch Frank
2021-05-18 10:40     ` Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-18 12:00       ` Janosch Frank
2021-05-17 20:07 ` [PATCH v1 02/11] KVM: s390: pv: properly handle page flags for protected guests Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-17 20:07 ` [PATCH v1 03/11] KVM: s390: pv: handle secure storage violations " Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-17 20:07 ` [PATCH v1 04/11] KVM: s390: pv: handle secure storage exceptions for normal guests Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-17 20:07 ` [PATCH v1 05/11] KVM: s390: pv: refactor s390_reset_acc Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-26 12:11   ` Janosch Frank
2021-05-17 20:07 ` [PATCH v1 06/11] KVM: s390: pv: usage counter instead of flag Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-27  9:29   ` Janosch Frank
2021-05-17 20:07 ` [PATCH v1 07/11] KVM: s390: pv: add export before import Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-26 11:56   ` Janosch Frank
2021-05-17 20:07 ` [PATCH v1 08/11] KVM: s390: pv: lazy destroy for reboot Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-27  9:43   ` Janosch Frank
2021-05-17 20:07 ` [PATCH v1 09/11] KVM: s390: pv: extend lazy destroy to handle shutdown Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-17 20:07 ` [PATCH v1 10/11] KVM: s390: pv: module parameter to fence lazy destroy Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-27 10:35   ` Janosch Frank
2021-05-17 20:07 ` [PATCH v1 11/11] KVM: s390: pv: add support for UV feature bits Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-18 15:05 ` [PATCH v1 00/11] KVM: s390: pv: implement lazy destroy Cornelia Huck
2021-05-18 15:36   ` Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-18 15:45     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-05-18 15:52       ` Cornelia Huck
2021-05-18 16:13       ` Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-18 16:20         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-05-18 16:34           ` Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-18 16:35             ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-05-18 16:04     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-05-18 16:19       ` Claudio Imbrenda [this message]
2021-05-18 16:22         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-18 16:31           ` Claudio Imbrenda
2021-05-18 16:55             ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-05-18 17:00               ` Claudio Imbrenda

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