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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
	cohuck@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, aviadye@nvidia.com,
	oren@nvidia.com, shahafs@nvidia.com, parav@nvidia.com,
	artemp@nvidia.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com, ACurrid@nvidia.com,
	cjia@nvidia.com, yishaih@nvidia.com, kevin.tian@intel.com,
	hch@infradead.org, targupta@nvidia.com,
	shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com, liulongfang@huawei.com,
	yan.y.zhao@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/11] PCI: add matching checks for driver_override binding
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 17:22:42 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210615172242.4b2be854.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210615230017.GZ1002214@nvidia.com>

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:00:17 -0300
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 03:59:00PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 17:42:16 -0300
> > Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 10:20:49AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:  
> > > > On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:04:58 -0300
> > > > Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > > >     
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 09:00:29AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > > >     
> > > > > > "vfio" override in PCI-core plays out for other override types.  Also I
> > > > > > don't think dynamic IDs should be handled uniquely, new_id_store()
> > > > > > should gain support for flags and userspace should be able to add new
> > > > > > dynamic ID with override-only matches to the table.  Thanks,      
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why? Once all the enforcement is stripped out the only purpose of the
> > > > > new flag is to signal a different prepration of modules.alias - which
> > > > > won't happen for the new_id path anyhow    
> > > > 
> > > > Because new_id allows the admin to insert a new pci_device_id which has
> > > > been extended to include a flags field and intentionally handling
> > > > dynamic IDs differently from static IDs seems like generally a bad
> > > > thing.      
> > > 
> > > I'd agree with you if there was a functional difference at runtime,
> > > but since that was all removed, I don't think we should touch new_id.
> > > 
> > > This ends up effectively being only a kbuild related patch that
> > > changes how modules.alias is built.  
> > 
> > But it wasn't all removed.  The proposal had:
> > 
> >  a) Short circuit the dynamic ID match
> >  b) Fail a driver-override-only match without a driver_override
> >  c) Fail a non-driver-override-only match with a driver_override
> > 
> > Max is only proposing removing c).
> > 
> > b) alone is a functional, runtime difference.  
> 
> I would state b) differently:
> 
> b) Ignore the driver-override-only match entries in the ID table.

No, pci_match_device() returns NULL if a match is found that is marked
driver-override-only and a driver_override is not specified.  That's
the same as no match at all.  We don't then go on to search past that
match in the table, we fail to bind the driver.  That's effectively an
anti-match when there's no driver_override on the device.

> As if we look at new_id, I can't think of any reason for userspace to
> add an entry to the ID table and then tell the kernel to ignore
> it. If you want the kernel to ignore it then just don't add it in the
> first place.
> 
> Do you have some other scenario in mind?

Sure, what if I have two different GPUs in my system, one works fine
with the FOSS driver, the other requires a 3rd party driver.  I don't
want to blacklist the FOSS driver, but I don't want it to claim the
other GPU.  I can create an anti-match that effectively removes one GPU
from the FOSS driver unless it's bound with a driver_override.

I understand that's not your intended use case, but I think this allows
that and justifies handling a dynamic ID the same as a static ID.
Adding a field to pci_device_id, which is otherwise able to be fully
specified via new_id, except for this field, feels like a bug.  Thanks,

Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-15 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-03 16:07 [RFC PATCH v4 00/11] Introduce vfio-pci-core subsystem Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:07 ` [PATCH 01/11] vfio-pci: rename vfio_pci.c to vfio_pci_core.c Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 02/11] vfio-pci: rename vfio_pci_private.h to vfio_pci_core.h Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 03/11] vfio-pci: rename vfio_pci_device to vfio_pci_core_device Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 04/11] vfio-pci: rename ops functions to fit core namings Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 05/11] vfio-pci: include vfio header in vfio_pci_core.h Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 06/11] vfio-pci: introduce vfio_pci.c Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 07/11] vfio-pci: move igd initialization to vfio_pci.c Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 08/11] PCI: add flags field to pci_device_id structure Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 09/11] PCI: add matching checks for driver_override binding Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-08 21:26   ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-08 22:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-09  1:27       ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-09  9:26         ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-13  8:19         ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-14  5:40           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-14  8:18             ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-14 15:27               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-14 16:01                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-14 16:15                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-14 16:33                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-14 18:42           ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-14 23:12             ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-15 15:00               ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15 15:04                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-15 16:20                   ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15 20:42                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-15 21:59                       ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15 23:00                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-15 23:22                           ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2021-06-15 23:32                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-16  0:22                               ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-16  0:34                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-16 23:28                                   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-16 23:33                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-16 23:42                                       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-16 23:44                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-16 23:51                                           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-16 23:56                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-20 14:46                                               ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 10/11] vfio-pci: introduce vfio_pci_core subsystem driver Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-08 21:26   ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-09  9:29     ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-06-03 16:08 ` [PATCH 11/11] mlx5-vfio-pci: add new vfio_pci driver for mlx5 devices Max Gurtovoy
2021-07-30  7:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 00/11] Introduce vfio-pci-core subsystem Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-07-30 11:55   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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