From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>,
Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>, Qian Cai <cailca@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL 1/1] KVM: s390: Remove false WARN_ON_ONCE for the PQAP instruction
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 15:09:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <328f4d06-5c1e-5255-cb4f-e8534f2171bf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a8688ff1-edc6-fdd8-9575-adbf726f9f06@redhat.com>
On 06.05.20 15:04, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 06/05/20 14:23, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>>
>> the problem is that z/VM seems to have disabled that bit. The interpretion
>> only works when all layers have this bit set. (Its called an effective bit).
>> So we have
>> LPAR -> ECA_APIE = 1
>> Z/VM -> ECA_APIE = 0
>> KVM -> ECA_APIE = 1
>> nested KVM guest --> does during boot in ap_instructions_available PQAP with
>> FC==0 to test if crypto is available.
>>
>> As the nested guest is in fact a shadow guest of z/VM
>> this will now intercept to z/VM, which will forward that to KVM.
>
> Right, and I'd understand, that since KVM has set ECA_APIE=1, z/VM
> should either:
>
> * not forward the intercept to KVM unless FC==3
>
> * toggle ECA_APIE back to 1 while running the KVM nested guest.
>
> Of course I have no idea if either of these choices is impossible, or
> too expensive, but this is how we'd try to handle it for x86 features.
>
> So it would be a z/VM bug, because it's not virtualizing ECA_APIE=1
> correctly. The next question is, if removing the WARN_ON is okay for
> you, should KVM not bother setting ECA_APIE=1 so that you don't trigger
> the z/VM bug at all?
>
IIRC, it's perfectly valid - according to the documentation - to ignore
ECA_APIE. That's the weird thing about effective controls. You don't
really know what you get in the end.
But, it's a long time since I had the chance to look at that
documentation ...
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-06 13:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-06 11:59 [GIT PULL 0/1] KVM: s390: Fix for running nested under z/VM Christian Borntraeger
2020-05-06 11:59 ` [GIT PULL 1/1] KVM: s390: Remove false WARN_ON_ONCE for the PQAP instruction Christian Borntraeger
2020-05-06 12:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-06 12:23 ` Christian Borntraeger
2020-05-06 13:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-06 13:09 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2020-05-06 16:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-06 13:10 ` Christian Borntraeger
2020-05-06 12:12 ` [GIT PULL 0/1] KVM: s390: Fix for running nested under z/VM Paolo Bonzini
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