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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	"jmattson@google.com" <jmattson@google.com>,
	"wanpengli@tencent.com" <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"vkuznets@redhat.com" <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	"mtosatti@redhat.com" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	karahmed@amazon.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] KVM: x86: Fix recording of guest steal time / preempted status
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 11:49:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32b00203-e093-8ffc-a75b-27557b5ee6b1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2b400dbb16818da49fb599b9182788ff9896dcda.camel@infradead.org>

On 11/12/21 10:54, David Woodhouse wrote:
>>> I'm also slightly less comfortable with having the MMU notifier work
>>> through an arbitrary *list* of gfn_to_pfn caches that it potentially
>>> needs to invalidate, but that is very much a minor concern compared
>>> with the first.
>>>
>>> I started looking through the nested code which is the big user of this
>>> facility.
>>
>> Yes, that's also where I got stuck in my first attempt a few months ago.
>>    I agree that it can be changed to use gfn-to-hva caches, except for
>> the vmcs12->posted_intr_desc_addr and vmcs12->virtual_apic_page_addr.
> 
> ... that anything accessing these will *still* need to do so in atomic
> context. There's an atomic access which might fail, and then you fall
> back to a context in which you can sleep to refresh the mapping. and
> you *still* need to perform the actual access with the spinlock held to
> protect against concurrent invalidation.
> 
> So let's take a look... for posted_intr_desc_addr, that host physical
> address is actually written to the VMCS02, isn't it?
> 
> Thinking about the case where the target page is being invalidated
> while the vCPU is running... surely in that case the only 'correct'
> solution is that the vCPU needs to be kicked out of non-root mode
> before the invalidate_range() notifier completes?

Yes.

> That would have worked nicely if the MMU notifier could call
> scru_synchronize() on invalidation. Can it kick the vCPU and wait for
> it to exit though?

Yes, there's kvm_make_all_cpus_request (see 
kvm_arch_mmu_notifier_invalidate_range).  It can sleep, which is 
theoretically wrong---but in practice non-blockable invalidations only 
occur from the OOM reaper, so no CPU can be running.  If we care, we can 
return early from kvm_arch_mmu_notifier_invalidate_range for 
non-blockable invalidations.

> Don't get me wrong, a big part of me *loves* the idea that the hairiest
> part of my Xen event channel delivery is actually a bug fix that we
> need in the kernel anyway, and then the rest of it is simple and
> uncontentious.
> 
> (ISTR the virtual apic page is a bit different because it's only an
> *address* and it doesn't even have to be backed by real memory at the
> corresponding HPA? Otherwise it's basically the same issue?)

We do back it by real memory anyway, so it's the same.

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-12 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-01 14:09 [PATCH] KVM: x86: Fix recording of guest steal time / preempted status David Woodhouse
2021-11-02 16:38 ` [PATCH v2] " David Woodhouse
2021-11-02 17:01   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-02 17:11     ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-02 17:19       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-02 17:26         ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-02 17:36         ` [PATCH v3] " David Woodhouse
2021-11-11 13:23           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-12  8:28             ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-12  9:31               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-12  9:54                 ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-12 10:49                   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2021-11-12 11:29                     ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-12 12:27                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-12 13:28                         ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-12 14:56                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-12 15:27                             ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 16:47                             ` [RFC PATCH 0/11] Rework gfn_to_pfn_cache David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 16:50                               ` [PATCH 01/11] KVM: x86: Fix steal time asm constraints in 32-bit mode David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 16:50                                 ` [PATCH 02/11] KVM: x86/xen: Fix get_attr of KVM_XEN_ATTR_TYPE_SHARED_INFO David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 16:50                                 ` [PATCH 03/11] KVM: selftests: Add event channel upcall support to xen_shinfo_test David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 16:50                                 ` [PATCH 04/11] KVM: x86/xen: Use sizeof_field() instead of open-coding it David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 16:50                                 ` [PATCH 05/11] KVM: nVMX: Use kvm_{read,write}_guest_cached() for shadow_vmcs12 David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 16:50                                 ` [PATCH 06/11] KVM: nVMX: Use kvm_read_guest_offset_cached() for nested VMCS check David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 16:50                                 ` [PATCH 07/11] KVM: nVMX: Use a gfn_to_hva_cache for vmptrld David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 16:50                                 ` [PATCH 08/11] KVM: Kill kvm_map_gfn() / kvm_unmap_gfn() and gfn_to_pfn_cache David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 10:21                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-17 17:18                                     ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 16:50                                 ` [PATCH 09/11] KVM: Reinstate gfn_to_pfn_cache with invalidation support David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 16:50                                 ` [PATCH 10/11] KVM: x86/xen: Maintain valid mapping of Xen shared_info page David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 16:50                                 ` [PATCH 11/11] KVM: x86/xen: Add KVM_IRQ_ROUTING_XEN_EVTCHN and event channel delivery David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 17:02                                   ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 18:49                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-15 18:55                                     ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 18:50                               ` [RFC PATCH 0/11] Rework gfn_to_pfn_cache Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-15 19:11                                 ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 19:26                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-15 22:59                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-15 23:22                                       ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 13:17                                         ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 14:11                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 14:25                                             ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 14:57                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 15:09                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 15:49                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 16:06                                                     ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 17:42                                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 17:57                                                         ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 18:46                                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 19:34                                                             ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 23:24                                       ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 11:50                                     ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Add Makefile.kvm for common files David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 11:50                                       ` [PATCH 1/7] KVM: Introduce CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 11:50                                         ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: Add Makefile.kvm for common files, use it for x86 David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 11:50                                         ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: s390: Use Makefile.kvm for common files David Woodhouse
2021-11-17  7:29                                           ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-11-16 11:50                                         ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: mips: " David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 11:50                                         ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: RISC-V: " David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 11:50                                         ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: powerpc: " David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 18:43                                           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-16 19:13                                             ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-16 11:50                                         ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: arm64: " David Woodhouse
2021-11-15 21:38                                 ` [RFC PATCH 0/11] Rework gfn_to_pfn_cache David Woodhouse
2021-11-12 19:44                 ` [PATCH v3] KVM: x86: Fix recording of guest steal time / preempted status David Woodhouse
2021-11-03  9:47         ` [PATCH v2] " David Woodhouse
2021-11-03 12:35           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-03 12:56             ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-03 13:05               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-03 13:23                 ` David Woodhouse
2021-11-03 13:34                 ` David Woodhouse

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