From: Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com> To: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> Cc: <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org>, <christoffer.dall@arm.com>, <marc.zyngier@arm.com>, <acme@redhat.com>, <peterz@infradead.org>, <mingo@redhat.com>, <ganapatrao.kulkarni@cavium.com>, <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, <will.deacon@arm.com>, <mark.rutland@arm.com>, <acme@kernel.org>, <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>, <jolsa@redhat.com>, <namhyung@kernel.org>, <wanghaibin.wang@huawei.com>, <xiexiangyou@huawei.com>, <linuxarm@huawei.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/5] KVM: arm/arm64: Adjust entry/exit and trap related tracepoints Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 21:25:42 +0800 Message-ID: <34bcb641-9815-cda7-69e0-98ed477e84a6@huawei.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <4d16d690-e93b-7b89-3251-aa4bd8489715@arm.com> Hi James, sorry for the late reply. On 2019/6/17 19:19, James Morse wrote: > Hi Zenghui, > > On 13/06/2019 12:28, Zenghui Yu wrote: >> On 2019/6/12 20:49, James Morse wrote: >>> On 12/06/2019 10:08, Zenghui Yu wrote: >>>> Currently, we use trace_kvm_exit() to report exception type (e.g., >>>> "IRQ", "TRAP") and exception class (ESR_ELx's bit[31:26]) together. >>>> But hardware only saves the exit class to ESR_ELx on synchronous >>>> exceptions, not on asynchronous exceptions. When the guest exits >>>> due to external interrupts, we will get tracing output like: >>>> >>>> "kvm_exit: IRQ: HSR_EC: 0x0000 (UNKNOWN), PC: 0xffff87259e30" >>>> >>>> Obviously, "HSR_EC" here is meaningless. > >>> I assume we do it this way so there is only one guest-exit tracepoint that catches all >>> exits. >>> I don't think its a problem if user-space has to know the EC isn't set for asynchronous >>> exceptions, this is a property of the architecture and anything using these trace-points >>> is already arch specific. > >> Actually, *no* problem in current implementation, and I'm OK to still >> keep the EC in trace_kvm_exit(). What I really want to do is adding the >> EC in trace_trap_enter (the new tracepoint), will explain it later. > > >>>> This patch splits "exit" and "trap" events by adding two tracepoints >>>> explicitly in handle_trap_exceptions(). Let trace_kvm_exit() report VM >>>> exit events, and trace_kvm_trap_exit() report VM trap events. >>>> >>>> These tracepoints are adjusted also in preparation for supporting >>>> 'perf kvm stat' on arm64. >>> >>> Because the existing tracepoints are ABI, I don't think we can change them. >>> >>> We can add new ones if there is something that a user reasonably needs to trace, and can't >>> be done any other way. >>> >>> What can't 'perf kvm stat' do with the existing trace points? > >> First, how does 'perf kvm stat' interact with tracepoints? > > Start at the beginning, good idea. (I've never used this thing!) > > >> We have three handlers for a specific event (e.g., "VM-EXIT") -- >> "is_begin_event", "is_end_event", "decode_key". The first two handlers >> make use of two existing tracepoints ("kvm:kvm_exit" & "kvm:kvm_entry") >> to check when the VM-EXIT events started/ended, thus the time difference >> stats, event start/end time etc. can be calculated. > >> "is_begin_event" handler gets a *key* from the "ret" field (exit_code) >> of "kvm:kvm_exit" payload, and "decode_key" handler makes use of the >> *key* to find out the reason for the VM-EXIT event. Of course we should >> maintain the mapping between exit_code and exit_reason in userspace. > > Interpreting 'ret' is going to get tricky if we change those values on a whim. Its > internal to the KVM arch code. Yes. We have to keep the definition of 'ret' and the mapping (kvm_arm_exception_type) consistent between user side and kernel side. Specifically, kernel side: arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_asm.h user side: tools/perf/arch/arm64/util/aarch64_guest_exits.h (patch #4) Do we have a better approach? >> These are all what *patch #4* had done, #4 is a simple patch to review! > >> Oh, we can also set "vcpu_id_str" to achieve per vcpu event record, but >> currently, we only have the "vcpu_pc" field in "kvm:kvm_entry", without >> something like "vcpu_id". > > Heh, so from the trace-point data, you can't know which on is vcpu-0 and which is vcpu-1. Yes! >> OK, next comes the more important question - what should/can we do to >> the tracepoints in preparation of 'perf kvm stat' on arm64? >> >> From the article you've provided, it's clear that we can't remove the EC >> from trace_kvm_exit(). But can we add something like "vcpu_id" into >> (at least) trace_kvm_entry(), just like what this patch has done? > > Adding something is still likely to break a badly written user-space that is trying to > parse the trace information. A regex picking out the last argument will now get a > different value. > > >> If not, which means we have to keep the existing tracepoints totally >> unchanged, then 'perf kvm stat' will have no way to record/report per >> vcpu VM-EXIT events (other arch like X86, powerpc, s390 etc. have this >> capability, if I understand it correctly). > > Well, you get the events, but you don't know which vCPU is which. You can map this back to > the pid of the host thread assuming user-space isn't moving vcpu between host threads. > > If we're really stuck: Adding tracepoints to KVM-core's vcpu get/put, that export the > vcpu_id would let you map pid->vcpu_id, which you can then use for the batch of enter/exit > events that come before a final vcpu put. > grepping "vpu_id" shows perf has a mapping for which arch-specific argument in enter/exit > is the vcpu-id. Done with this core-code mapping, you could drop that code... Yes. In the current 'perf kvm' implementation, we make use of the "vcpu id" field (specified by vcpu_id_str, differ between arch) of "kvm:kvm_entry" tracepoint payload, to achieve per vcpu record/report. (Details in per_vcpu_record() in tools/perf/builtin-kvm.c) Adding tracepoints in vcpu_load()/vcpu_put() might be a good idea, we can get "vcpu id" information without breaking existing tracepoint ABI. And I think other arch will benefit from this way, for those who haven't supported 'perf kvm stat' yet and don't have "vcpu id" info in the "kvm:kvm_entry" tracepoint. But there is at least one problem (as I can see)... KVM will not always do a vcpu_load()/vcpu_put(), while guest always enters/exits. In the worst case, if KVM can always handle guest's exits, perf will not have a chance to catch vcpu_load()/vcpu_put(). And still, we fail to get per vcpu statistical analysis. I've written a simple patch to prove this, attached at the end of this mail. I run 'perf kvm stat record/report' against a 4-VCPU guest, but only vcpu-3 will be reported, as only vcpu-3 is doing some MMIO access and we have to return to user space (and vcpu_load() will be invoked). I'm not sure if I (likely) missed some important points you've provided. > But I'd be a little nervous adding a new trace-point to work around an ABI problem, as we > may have just moved the ABI problem! (What does a user of a vcpu_put tracepoint really need?) > > >> As for TRAP events, should we consider adding two new tracepoints -- >> "kvm_trap_enter" and "kvm_trap_exit", to keep tracking of the trap >> handling process? We should also record the EC in "kvm_trap_enter", which will be used as >> *key* in TRAP event's "is_begin_event" handler. > > The EC can't change between trace_kvm_exit() and handle_exit(), so you already have this. > > What are the 'trap' trace points needed for? You get the timing and 'exception class' from > the guest enter/exit tracepoints. What about handle_exit() can't you work out from this? In short, these two trap tracepoints are for patch #5. Some users (me) may want to know, how many traps a guest has in a given period of time, how many times a particular type of trap (e.g., Dabort) has occurred, and how long each trap has been processed. That's what patch #5 does, you can get these info through 'perf kvm stat report --event=trap'. If we use guest enter/exit tracepoints to support TRAP events, there will be two problems: 1) the timing becomes inaccurate (longer than the real timing) 2) the reported 'EC' becomes "Unknown" in the case when guest exits due to IRQ, as we set 'esr_ec' to 0 on asynchronous exceptions, in trace_kvm_exit. >> Patch #5 tells us the whole story, it's simple too. > > (I only skimmed the perf patches, I'll go back now that I know a little more about what > you're doing) Much appreciated :) >> What do you suggest? > > We can explore the vcpu_load()/vcpu_put() trace idea, (it may not work for some other > reason). I'd like to understand what the 'trap' tracepoints are needed for. Thanks for your suggestion! Btw, I have collected some useful links, attached here, to share with someone who're interested in this series. [1] the initial idea for 'perf kvm stat': https://events.static.linuxfound.org/images/stories/pdf/lcjp2012_guangrong.pdf [2] a discussion on improving kvm_exit tracepoint: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/7097311/ Thanks, zenghui ---8<--- Two tracepoints have already been added in vcpu_load/put(). --- tools/perf/arch/arm64/util/kvm-stat.c | 2 ++ tools/perf/builtin-kvm.c | 7 ++++++- 2 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/tools/perf/arch/arm64/util/kvm-stat.c b/tools/perf/arch/arm64/util/kvm-stat.c index 41b28de..a91fe7d 100644 --- a/tools/perf/arch/arm64/util/kvm-stat.c +++ b/tools/perf/arch/arm64/util/kvm-stat.c @@ -103,6 +103,8 @@ static void trap_event_decode_key(struct perf_kvm_stat *kvm __maybe_unused, "kvm:kvm_exit", "kvm:kvm_trap_enter", "kvm:kvm_trap_exit", + "kvm:vcpu_load", + "kvm:vcpu_put", NULL, }; diff --git a/tools/perf/builtin-kvm.c b/tools/perf/builtin-kvm.c index dbb6f73..f011fcf 100644 --- a/tools/perf/builtin-kvm.c +++ b/tools/perf/builtin-kvm.c @@ -81,6 +81,11 @@ bool exit_event_begin(struct perf_evsel *evsel, return false; } +static bool kvm_vcpu_load_event(struct perf_evsel *evsel) +{ + return !strcmp(evsel->name, "kvm:vcpu_load"); +} + bool kvm_entry_event(struct perf_evsel *evsel) { return !strcmp(evsel->name, kvm_entry_trace); @@ -400,7 +405,7 @@ struct vcpu_event_record *per_vcpu_record(struct thread *thread, struct perf_sample *sample) { /* Only kvm_entry records vcpu id. */ - if (!thread__priv(thread) && kvm_entry_event(evsel)) { + if (!thread__priv(thread) && kvm_vcpu_load_event(evsel)) { struct vcpu_event_record *vcpu_record; vcpu_record = zalloc(sizeof(*vcpu_record)); --
next prev parent reply index Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2019-06-12 9:08 [PATCH v1 0/5] perf kvm: Add stat support on arm64 Zenghui Yu 2019-06-12 9:08 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] KVM: arm/arm64: Remove kvm_mmio_emulate tracepoint Zenghui Yu 2019-06-12 12:48 ` James Morse 2019-06-13 11:20 ` Zenghui Yu 2019-06-12 9:08 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] KVM: arm/arm64: Adjust entry/exit and trap related tracepoints Zenghui Yu 2019-06-12 12:49 ` James Morse 2019-06-13 11:28 ` Zenghui Yu 2019-06-17 11:19 ` James Morse 2019-06-21 13:25 ` Zenghui Yu [this message] 2019-06-12 9:08 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] perf tools arm64: Add support for get_cpuid() function Zenghui Yu 2019-06-12 9:08 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] perf,kvm/arm64: Add stat support on arm64 Zenghui Yu 2019-06-12 9:08 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] perf,kvm/arm64: perf-kvm-stat to report VM TRAP Zenghui Yu
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