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From: Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, aarcange@redhat.com, chrisw@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:08:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4919D83C.20807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4919D370.7080301@redhat.com>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
>> The whole approach seems wrong to me.  The kernel lost track of these
>> pages and then we run around post-facto trying to fix that up again. 
>> Please explain (for the changelog) why the kernel cannot get this right
>> via the usual sharing, refcounting and COWing approaches.
>>   
>
> For kvm, the kernel never knew those pages were shared.  They are 
> loaded from independent (possibly compressed and encrypted) disk 
> images.  These images are different; but some pages happen to be the 
> same because they came from the same installation media.

As Avi said, in kvm we cannot know how the guest is going to map its 
pages, we have nothing to do but to scan for the identical pages
(you can have pages that are shared that are in whole different offset 
inside the guest)

>
> For OpenVZ the situation is less clear, but if you allow users to 
> independently upgrade their chroots you will eventually arrive at the 
> same scenario (unless of course you apply the same merging strategy at 
> the filesystem level).
>


  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-11 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-11 13:21 [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 13:21 ` [PATCH 1/4] rmap: add page_wrprotect() function, Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 13:21   ` [PATCH 2/4] Add replace_page(), change the mapping of pte from one page into another Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 13:21     ` [PATCH 3/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 13:21       ` [PATCH 4/4] MMU_NOTIFIRES: add set_pte_at_notify() Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 20:38       ` [PATCH 3/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Andrew Morton
2008-11-11 22:03         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-11 22:03       ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-11-11 22:17         ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 22:25           ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-11-11 22:31             ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 22:30           ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-11-11 22:38             ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 23:02             ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 23:03             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-11 22:49           ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-11 22:40         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-11-13  6:13           ` Eric Rannaud
2008-11-11 22:43         ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-11 19:45     ` [PATCH 2/4] Add replace_page(), change the mapping of pte from one page into another Andrew Morton
2008-11-11 20:57       ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 21:21         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-11 21:23           ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 21:31             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-11 21:37               ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 22:24               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-12  2:19                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-12 10:05                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-12 11:11                     ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-13  6:11                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-13 10:38                         ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-13 11:32                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-11 21:35           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-11 21:06       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-11 21:26         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-11 21:39           ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-11 21:47             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-11 21:55               ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 22:36               ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-11 22:17           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-11 22:30             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-11 23:17               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-11 23:25                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-12  0:27                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-12  2:27                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-12  3:10                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-12 17:32                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-12 20:08                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-11-12 20:31                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-12 20:27                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-12 22:09                           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-11-13  2:00                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-13  2:31                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-13  4:02                                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-11 19:39   ` [PATCH 1/4] rmap: add page_wrprotect() function, Andrew Morton
2008-11-11 20:38     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-11 21:01       ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-11 21:17         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-11 18:30 ` [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux Andrew Morton
2008-11-11 18:48   ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-11 19:08     ` Izik Eidus [this message]
2008-11-11 19:11     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-11 19:18       ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 19:32         ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-11 19:52           ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 20:08             ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 19:29       ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-11 19:55       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-11 19:07   ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 19:20     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-30 23:59 Izik Eidus
2009-03-31  1:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 12:33   ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 19:22 ` Jesper Juhl
2009-04-02 19:38   ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 19:39   ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 19:49     ` Jesper Juhl

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