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From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	pair@us.ibm.com, brijesh.singh@amd.com, frankja@linux.ibm.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	david@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, berrange@redhat.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net, mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [for-6.0 v5 12/13] securable guest memory: Alter virtio default properties for protected guests
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 09:16:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54a86780-4ee2-089c-397a-83601ec1daec@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201208015403.GB2555@yekko.fritz.box>



On 08.12.20 02:54, David Gibson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 03:43:10PM +0100, Halil Pasic wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 09:29:59 +0100
>> Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04.12.20 09:17, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 09:10:36 +0100
>>>> Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 04.12.20 06:44, David Gibson wrote:
>>>>>> The default behaviour for virtio devices is not to use the platforms normal
>>>>>> DMA paths, but instead to use the fact that it's running in a hypervisor
>>>>>> to directly access guest memory.  That doesn't work if the guest's memory
>>>>>> is protected from hypervisor access, such as with AMD's SEV or POWER's PEF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if a securable guest memory mechanism is enabled, then apply the
>>>>>> iommu_platform=on option so it will go through normal DMA mechanisms.
>>>>>> Those will presumably have some way of marking memory as shared with
>>>>>> the hypervisor or hardware so that DMA will work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>  hw/core/machine.c | 13 +++++++++++++
>>>>>>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/hw/core/machine.c b/hw/core/machine.c
>>>>>> index a67a27d03c..d16273d75d 100644
>>>>>> --- a/hw/core/machine.c
>>>>>> +++ b/hw/core/machine.c
>>>>>> @@ -28,6 +28,8 @@
>>>>>>  #include "hw/mem/nvdimm.h"
>>>>>>  #include "migration/vmstate.h"
>>>>>>  #include "exec/securable-guest-memory.h"
>>>>>> +#include "hw/virtio/virtio.h"
>>>>>> +#include "hw/virtio/virtio-pci.h"
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  GlobalProperty hw_compat_5_1[] = {
>>>>>>      { "vhost-scsi", "num_queues", "1"},
>>>>>> @@ -1169,6 +1171,17 @@ void machine_run_board_init(MachineState *machine)
>>>>>>           * areas.
>>>>>>           */
>>>>>>          machine_set_mem_merge(OBJECT(machine), false, &error_abort);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +        /*
>>>>>> +         * Virtio devices can't count on directly accessing guest
>>>>>> +         * memory, so they need iommu_platform=on to use normal DMA
>>>>>> +         * mechanisms.  That requires also disabling legacy virtio
>>>>>> +         * support for those virtio pci devices which allow it.
>>>>>> +         */
>>>>>> +        object_register_sugar_prop(TYPE_VIRTIO_PCI, "disable-legacy",
>>>>>> +                                   "on", true);
>>>>>> +        object_register_sugar_prop(TYPE_VIRTIO_DEVICE, "iommu_platform",
>>>>>> +                                   "on", false);  
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not followed all the history (sorry). Should we also set iommu_platform
>>>>> for virtio-ccw? Halil?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That line should add iommu_platform for all virtio devices, shouldn't
>>>> it?
>>>
>>> Yes, sorry. Was misreading that with the line above. 
>>>
>>
>> I believe this is the best we can get. In a sense it is still a
>> pessimization,
> 
> I'm not really clear on what you're getting at here.

I think Halils point is that somebody might come up with a solution where things would
work even without iommu_platform. But as he said, still the best setting we can get
to cover all cases.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-08  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-04  5:44 [for-6.0 v5 00/13] Generalize memory encryption models David Gibson
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 01/13] qom: Allow optional sugar props David Gibson
2020-12-04 12:57   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-14 21:25   ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-01-11 18:04   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 02/13] securable guest memory: Introduce new securable guest memory base class David Gibson
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 03/13] securable guest memory: Handle memory encryption via interface David Gibson
2020-12-04 13:10   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-08  4:03     ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  3:49     ` David Gibson
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 04/13] securable guest memory: Move side effect out of machine_set_memory_encryption() David Gibson
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 05/13] securable guest memory: Rework the "memory-encryption" property David Gibson
2021-01-11 18:09   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 06/13] securable guest memory: Decouple kvm_memcrypt_*() helpers from KVM David Gibson
2021-01-11 18:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-01-12  3:03     ` David Gibson
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 07/13] sev: Add Error ** to sev_kvm_init() David Gibson
2020-12-14 16:50   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 08/13] securable guest memory: Introduce sgm "ready" flag David Gibson
2020-12-14 17:00   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-17  5:38     ` David Gibson
2020-12-17 11:24       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 09/13] securable guest memory: Move SEV initialization into arch specific code David Gibson
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 10/13] spapr: Add PEF based securable guest memory David Gibson
2021-01-05 23:34   ` Ram Pai
2021-01-08  0:34     ` David Gibson
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 11/13] spapr: PEF: prevent migration David Gibson
2020-12-14 17:22   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-17  5:47     ` David Gibson
2020-12-17 11:38       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-17 14:15         ` Greg Kurz
2020-12-18 11:41           ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-18 12:08             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-04  7:15             ` Ram Pai
2021-01-04 12:46               ` [EXTERNAL] " Halil Pasic
2021-01-04 18:40                 ` Ram Pai
2021-01-05 10:56                   ` [EXTERNAL] " Halil Pasic
2021-01-05 20:41                     ` Ram Pai
2021-01-11 16:59                       ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-11 19:58                         ` Ram Pai
2021-01-12  8:19                           ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-12 18:55                             ` Ram Pai
2021-01-13  8:06                               ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-15 18:55                                 ` Ram Pai
2021-01-19  8:19                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-19  9:59                                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-14 11:23                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-13 12:42                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-14 10:28                           ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-14 10:36                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-14 10:52                               ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-14 11:05                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-14 11:45                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-14 11:50                                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-14 12:20                                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-14 14:04                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-14 14:09                                           ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-14 14:15                                             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-14 15:25                                               ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-14 15:33                                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-15 18:24                               ` Ram Pai
2021-01-14 11:25                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-14 23:51                             ` David Gibson
2021-01-18 17:39                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-19  8:28                                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-19  8:34                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 12/13] securable guest memory: Alter virtio default properties for protected guests David Gibson
2020-12-04  8:10   ` Christian Borntraeger
2020-12-04  8:17     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-04  8:29       ` Christian Borntraeger
2020-12-04 14:43         ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-08  1:54           ` David Gibson
2020-12-08  8:16             ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2020-12-08 10:28             ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-08 12:50               ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-17  5:53                 ` David Gibson
2020-12-04 17:04   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-04  5:44 ` [for-6.0 v5 13/13] s390: Recognize securable-guest-memory option David Gibson
2020-12-15 11:45   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-17  5:54     ` David Gibson
2020-12-04  8:06 ` [for-6.0 v5 00/13] Generalize memory encryption models Christian Borntraeger
2020-12-04 13:02   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-04 13:07     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-12-04 13:12       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-08  2:57         ` David Gibson
2020-12-08 12:43           ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-17  6:21             ` David Gibson
2020-12-17 11:43               ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-04 13:25       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-12-04 13:51         ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-08  2:54     ` David Gibson
2020-12-04  9:50 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-12  3:02   ` David Gibson

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