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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
Cc: Liu Yi L <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, eric.auger@redhat.com,
	baolu.lu@linux.intel.com, joro@8bytes.org, kevin.tian@intel.com,
	jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com, ashok.raj@intel.com,
	jun.j.tian@intel.com, yi.y.sun@intel.com, peterx@redhat.com,
	hao.wu@intel.com, stefanha@gmail.com,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/16] vfio: expose virtual Shared Virtual Addressing to VMs
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:29:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5dd95fbf-054c-3bbc-e76b-2d5636214ff2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200914133113.GB1375106@myrica>


On 2020/9/14 下午9:31, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
>> If it's possible, I would suggest a generic uAPI instead of a VFIO specific
>> one.
> A large part of this work is already generic uAPI, in
> include/uapi/linux/iommu.h.


This is not what I read from this series, all the following uAPI is VFIO 
specific:

struct vfio_iommu_type1_nesting_op;
struct vfio_iommu_type1_pasid_request;

And include/uapi/linux/iommu.h is not included in 
include/uapi/linux/vfio.h at all.



> This patchset connects that generic interface
> to the pre-existing VFIO uAPI that deals with IOMMU mappings of an
> assigned device. But the bulk of the work is done by the IOMMU subsystem,
> and is available to all device drivers.


So any reason not introducing the uAPI to IOMMU drivers directly?


>
>> Jason suggest something like /dev/sva. There will be a lot of other
>> subsystems that could benefit from this (e.g vDPA).
> Do you have a more precise idea of the interface /dev/sva would provide,
> how it would interact with VFIO and others?


Can we replace the container fd with sva fd like:

sva = open("/dev/sva", O_RDWR);
group = open("/dev/vfio/26", O_RDWR);
ioctl(group, VFIO_GROUP_SET_SVA, &sva);

Then we can do all SVA stuffs through sva fd, and for other subsystems 
(like vDPA) it only need to implement the function that is equivalent to 
VFIO_GROUP_SET_SVA.


>    vDPA could transport the
> generic iommu.h structures via its own uAPI, and call the IOMMU API
> directly without going through an intermediate /dev/sva handle.


Any value for those transporting? I think we have agreed that VFIO is 
not the only user for vSVA ...

It's not hard to forecast that there would be more subsystems that want 
to benefit from vSVA, we don't want to duplicate the similar uAPIs in 
all of those subsystems.

Thanks


>
> Thanks,
> Jean
>


      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-16  2:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-10 10:45 [PATCH v7 00/16] vfio: expose virtual Shared Virtual Addressing to VMs Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 01/16] iommu: Report domain nesting info Liu Yi L
2020-09-11 19:38   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 02/16] iommu/smmu: Report empty " Liu Yi L
2021-01-12  6:50   ` Vivek Gautam
2021-01-12  9:21     ` Liu, Yi L
2021-01-12 11:05       ` Vivek Gautam
2021-01-13  5:56         ` Liu, Yi L
2021-01-19 10:03           ` Auger Eric
2021-01-23  8:59             ` Liu, Yi L
2021-02-12  7:14               ` Vivek Gautam
2021-02-12  9:57                 ` Auger Eric
2021-02-12 10:18                   ` Vivek Kumar Gautam
2021-02-12 11:01                     ` Vivek Kumar Gautam
2021-03-03  9:44                   ` Liu, Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 03/16] vfio/type1: Report iommu nesting info to userspace Liu Yi L
2020-09-11 20:16   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-12  8:24     ` Liu, Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 04/16] vfio: Add PASID allocation/free support Liu Yi L
2020-09-11 20:54   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-15  4:03     ` Liu, Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 05/16] iommu/vt-d: Support setting ioasid set to domain Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 06/16] iommu/vt-d: Remove get_task_mm() in bind_gpasid() Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] vfio/type1: Add VFIO_IOMMU_PASID_REQUEST (alloc/free) Liu Yi L
2020-09-11 21:38   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 08/16] iommu: Pass domain to sva_unbind_gpasid() Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 09/16] iommu/vt-d: Check ownership for PASIDs from user-space Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 10/16] vfio/type1: Support binding guest page tables to PASID Liu Yi L
2020-09-11 22:03   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-12  6:02     ` Liu, Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 11/16] vfio/type1: Allow invalidating first-level/stage IOMMU cache Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 12/16] vfio/type1: Add vSVA support for IOMMU-backed mdevs Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 13/16] vfio/pci: Expose PCIe PASID capability to guest Liu Yi L
2020-09-11 22:13   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-12  7:17     ` Liu, Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 14/16] vfio: Document dual stage control Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 15/16] iommu/vt-d: Only support nesting when nesting caps are consistent across iommu units Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 16/16] iommu/vt-d: Support reporting nesting capability info Liu Yi L
2020-09-14  4:20 ` [PATCH v7 00/16] vfio: expose virtual Shared Virtual Addressing to VMs Jason Wang
2020-09-14  8:01   ` Tian, Kevin
2020-09-14  8:57     ` Jason Wang
2020-09-14 10:38       ` Tian, Kevin
2020-09-14 11:38         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 13:31   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-09-14 13:47     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 16:22       ` Raj, Ashok
2020-09-14 16:33         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 16:58           ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-14 17:41             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 18:23               ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-14 19:00                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 22:33                   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-15 14:29                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16  1:19                       ` Tian, Kevin
2020-09-16  8:32                         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-09-16 14:51                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 16:20                             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-09-16 16:32                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 16:50                                 ` Auger Eric
2020-09-16 14:44                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17  6:01                           ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                   ` <20200914224438.GA65940@otc-nc-03>
2020-09-15 11:33                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 18:11                       ` Raj, Ashok
2020-09-15 18:45                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 19:26                           ` Raj, Ashok
2020-09-15 23:45                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16  2:33                             ` Jason Wang
2020-09-15 22:08                           ` Jacob Pan
2020-09-15 23:51                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                               ` <20200915171319.00003f59@linux.intel.com>
2020-09-16  1:46                                 ` Lu Baolu
2020-09-16 15:07                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 16:33                                   ` Raj, Ashok
2020-09-16 17:01                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 18:21                                       ` Jacob Pan (Jun)
2020-09-16 18:38                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 23:09                                           ` Jacob Pan (Jun)
2020-09-17  3:53                                             ` Jason Wang
2020-09-17 17:31                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 18:17                                               ` Jacob Pan (Jun)
2020-09-18  3:58                                                 ` Jason Wang
2020-09-16  2:29     ` Jason Wang [this message]

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