From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Paolo Bonzini Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/speculation: Support "Enhanced IBRS" on future CPUs Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:08:49 +0100 Message-ID: <75287047-77a0-e0ff-c2e8-61c81641251e@redhat.com> References: <1518449255-2182-1-git-send-email-dwmw@amazon.co.uk> <1518449255-2182-2-git-send-email-dwmw@amazon.co.uk> <7e2e5ad1-49b6-1fdb-4a62-8ad6aefc30a0@redhat.com> <1518509708.12890.33.camel@infradead.org> <27c85759-e662-d281-f8a0-0a80ca8ee18f@redhat.com> <1518517262.12890.43.camel@infradead.org> <1518518198.12890.48.camel@infradead.org> <02bd3fdd-1b73-6cab-fb09-38ba933396bd@redhat.com> <1518775136.7876.13.camel@infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Ingo Molnar To: David Woodhouse , tglx@linutronix.de, x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com, dave.hansen@intel.com Return-path: In-Reply-To: <1518775136.7876.13.camel@infradead.org> Content-Language: en-US Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: kvm.vger.kernel.org On 16/02/2018 10:58, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 11:41 +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > >> On 13/02/2018 11:36, David Woodhouse wrote: >>>>> - if the VM has IBRS_ALL, pass through the MSR when it is zero and >>>>> intercept writes when it is one (no writes should happen) >>>>>   >>>>> - if the VM doesn't have IBRS_ALL, do as we are doing now, independent >>>>> of what the host spectre_v2_ibrs_all() setting is. >>>> >>>> We end up having to turn IBRS on again on vmexit then, taking care that >>>> no conditional branch can go round it. So that becomes an >>>> *unconditional* wrmsr or lfence in the vmexit path. We really don't >>>> want that. >>>> >>> Note that being able to keep it simple in KVM was basically what made >>> the difference between me tolerating IBRS_ALL as Intel currently define >>> it, and throwing my toys out of the pram (as I had done in the first >>> iterations of this patch). >>   >> You have my vote. :)  > > I was taking that as assent to the patch... could I trouble you for an > explicit ack, please? No, it's a vote for throwing the toys out of the pram (or running away with the ball, if you prefer). Unfortunately, if you want to have a higher-performance mode for IBRS_ALL that avoids rdmsr on vmexit, you have to do it as sketched above. Alternatively, if IBRS_ALL is 1, and you don't care about migration between machines that have IBRS_ALL and those that don't, the host can simply not enable the SPEC_CTRL CPUID bit in the guest, and instead use the AMD IBPB flag only. Need to check if Windows obeys the AMD flag on Intel machines (or in general) though. Paolo