From: Eric van Tassell <evantass@amd.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Cc: eric van tassell <Eric.VanTassell@amd.com>,
Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
"Singh, Brijesh" <Brijesh.Singh@amd.com>,
"Grimm, Jon" <Jon.Grimm@amd.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com,
mingo@redhat.com, jmattson@google.com, joro@8bytes.org,
pbonzini@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de, vkuznets@redhat.com,
wanpengli@tencent.com, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch 2/4] KVM:SVM: Introduce set_spte_notify support
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 11:03:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <775a71bb-bd1d-ff34-a740-e10a88cc668c@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200803162730.GB3151@linux.intel.com>
On 8/3/20 11:27 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 03:53:54PM -0500, Eric van Tassell wrote:
>>
>> On 7/31/20 3:25 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 06:54:46PM -0500, eric van tassell wrote:
>>>> Improve SEV guest startup time from O(n) to a constant by deferring
>>>> guest page pinning until the pages are used to satisfy nested page faults.
>>>>
>>>> Implement the code to do the pinning (sev_get_page) and the notifier
>>>> sev_set_spte_notify().
>>>>
>>>> Track the pinned pages with xarray so they can be released during guest
>>>> termination.
>>>
>>> I like that SEV is trying to be a better citizen, but this is trading one
>>> hack for another.
>>>
>>> - KVM goes through a lot of effort to ensure page faults don't need to
>>> allocate memory, and this throws all that effort out the window.
>>>
>> can you elaborate on that?
>
> mmu_topup_memory_caches() is called from the page fault handlers before
> acquiring mmu_lock to pre-allocate shadow pages, PTE list descriptors, GFN
> arrays, etc... that may be needed to handle the page fault. This allows
> using standard GFP flags for the allocation and obviates the need for error
> handling in the consumers.
>
I see what you meant. The issue that causes us to use this approach is
that we need to be able to unpin the pages when the VM exits.
>>>> +int sev_set_spte_notify(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, gfn_t gfn, kvm_pfn_t pfn,
>>>> + int level, bool mmio, u64 *spte)
>>>> +{
>>>> + int rc;
>>>> +
>>>> + if (!sev_guest(vcpu->kvm))
>>>> + return 0;
>>>> +
>>>> + /* MMIO page contains the unencrypted data, no need to lock this page */
>>>> + if (mmio)
>>>
>>> Rather than make this a generic set_spte() notify hook, I think it makes
>>> more sense to specifying have it be a "pin_spte" style hook. That way the
>>> caller can skip mmio PFNs as well as flows that can't possibly be relevant
>>> to SEV, e.g. the sync_page() flow.
>> Not sure i understand. We do ignore mmio here.
>
> I'm saying we can have the caller, i.e. set_spte(), skip the hook for MMIO.
> If the kvm_x86_ops hook is specifically designed to allow pinning pages (and
> to support related features), then set_spte() can filter out MMIO PFNs. It's
> a minor detail, but it's one less thing to have to check in the vendor code.
>
The check is moved to the caller.
>> Can you detail a bit more what you see as problematic with the sync_page() flow?
>
> There's no problem per se. But, assuming TDP/NPT is required to enable SEV,
> then sync_page() simply isn't relevant for pinning a host PFN as pages can't
> become unsynchronized when TDP is enabled, e.g. ->sync_page() is a nop when
> TDP is enabled. If the hook is completely generic, then we need to think
> about how it interacts with changing existing SPTEs via ->sync_page(). Giving
> the hook more narrowly focused semantics means we can again filter out that
> path and not have to worry about testing it.
>
> The above doesn't hold true for nested TDP/NPT, but AIUI SEV doesn't yet
> support nested virtualization, i.e. it's a future problem.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-19 16:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-24 23:54 [Patch 0/4] Defer page pinning for SEV guests until guest pages touched eric van tassell
2020-07-24 23:54 ` [Patch 1/4] KVM:MMU: Introduce the set_spte_notify() callback eric van tassell
2020-07-24 23:54 ` [Patch 2/4] KVM:SVM: Introduce set_spte_notify support eric van tassell
2020-07-31 20:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-02 20:53 ` Eric van Tassell
2020-08-03 16:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-19 16:03 ` Eric van Tassell [this message]
2020-08-19 16:05 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-20 17:05 ` Eric van Tassell
2020-08-20 23:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-21 0:36 ` Eric van Tassell
2020-08-21 18:16 ` Eric van Tassell
2020-07-24 23:54 ` [Patch 3/4] KVM:SVM: Pin sev_launch_update_data() pages via sev_get_page() eric van tassell
2020-07-31 20:40 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-02 23:55 ` Eric van Tassell
2020-08-19 16:20 ` Eric van Tassell
2020-07-24 23:54 ` [Patch 4/4] KVM:SVM: Remove struct enc_region and associated pinned page tracking eric van tassell
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