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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Oliver Upton <oupton@google.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Peter Shier <pshier@google.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/11] KVM: arm64: Defer WFI emulation as a requested event
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:57:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h7e0sv9c.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YVXvM2kw8PDou4qO@google.com>

On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 18:09:07 +0100,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 20:16:04 +0100, Oliver Upton <oupton@google.com> wrote:
> > > @@ -681,6 +687,9 @@ static void check_vcpu_requests(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > >  		if (kvm_check_request(KVM_REQ_SLEEP, vcpu))
> > >  			kvm_vcpu_sleep(vcpu);
> > >  
> > > +		if (kvm_check_request(KVM_REQ_SUSPEND, vcpu))
> > > +			kvm_vcpu_suspend(vcpu);
> > > +
> 
> ...
> 
> > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/handle_exit.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/handle_exit.c
> > > index 275a27368a04..5e5ef9ff4fba 100644
> > > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/handle_exit.c
> > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/handle_exit.c
> > > @@ -95,8 +95,7 @@ static int kvm_handle_wfx(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > >  	} else {
> > >  		trace_kvm_wfx_arm64(*vcpu_pc(vcpu), false);
> > >  		vcpu->stat.wfi_exit_stat++;
> > > -		kvm_vcpu_block(vcpu);
> > > -		kvm_clear_request(KVM_REQ_UNHALT, vcpu);
> > > +		kvm_make_request(KVM_REQ_SUSPEND, vcpu);
> > >  	}
> > >  
> > >  	kvm_incr_pc(vcpu);
> > 
> > This is a change in behaviour. At the point where the blocking
> > happens, PC will have already been incremented. I'd rather you don't
> > do that. Instead, make the helper available and call into it directly,
> > preserving the current semantics.
> 
> Is there architectural behavior that KVM can emulate?  E.g. if you
> were to probe a physical CPU while it's waiting, would you observe
> the pre-WFI PC, or the post-WFI PC?  Following arch behavior would
> be ideal because it eliminates subjectivity.

The architecture doesn't really say (that's one of the many IMPDEF
behaviours). However, there are at least some extensions (such as
statistical profiling) that do require the PC to be accurately
recorded together with the effects of the instructions at that PC.

If an implementation was to pre-increment the PC, the corresponding
trace would be inaccurate.

> Regardless of the architectural behavior, changing KVM's behavior
> should be done explicitly in a separate patch.
>
> Irrespective of PC behavior, I would caution against using a request
> for handling WFI.  Deferring the WFI opens up the possibility for
> all sorts of ordering oddities, e.g. if KVM exits to userspace
> between here and check_vcpu_requests(), then KVM can end up with a
> "spurious" pending KVM_REQ_SUSPEND if maniupaltes vCPU state.  I
> highly doubt that userspace VMMs would actually do that, as it would
> basically require a signal from userspace, but it's not impossible,
> and at the very least the pending request is yet another thing to
> worry about in the future.

+1. It really isn't worth the complexity.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-01 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-23 19:15 [PATCH v2 00/11] KVM: arm64: Implement PSCI SYSTEM_SUSPEND support Oliver Upton
2021-09-23 19:16 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] KVM: arm64: Drop unused vcpu param to kvm_psci_valid_affinity() Oliver Upton
2021-10-01  3:50   ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-10-05 13:22   ` Andrew Jones
2021-09-23 19:16 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] KVM: arm64: Clean up SMC64 PSCI filtering for AArch32 guests Oliver Upton
2021-10-01  3:56   ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-10-05 13:23   ` Andrew Jones
2021-09-23 19:16 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] KVM: arm64: Encapsulate reset request logic in a helper function Oliver Upton
2021-10-01  6:04   ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-10-01 16:10     ` Oliver Upton
2021-10-05 13:33       ` Andrew Jones
2021-10-05 15:05         ` Oliver Upton
2021-10-05 19:01           ` Andrew Jones
2021-10-13  4:48             ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-10-05 13:35   ` Andrew Jones
2021-09-23 19:16 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] KVM: arm64: Rename the KVM_REQ_SLEEP handler Oliver Upton
2021-10-05 13:34   ` Andrew Jones
2021-09-23 19:16 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] KVM: arm64: Defer WFI emulation as a requested event Oliver Upton
2021-09-30 10:50   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-09-30 17:09     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-30 17:32       ` Oliver Upton
2021-09-30 18:08         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-30 21:57           ` Oliver Upton
2021-10-01 13:57       ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2021-09-23 19:16 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] KVM: arm64: Add support for SYSTEM_SUSPEND PSCI call Oliver Upton
2021-09-30 12:29   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-09-30 17:19     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-30 17:35       ` Oliver Upton
2021-09-30 17:40     ` Oliver Upton
2021-10-01 14:02       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-10-05 16:02     ` Oliver Upton
2021-09-23 19:16 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] selftests: KVM: Rename psci_cpu_on_test to psci_test Oliver Upton
2021-10-05 13:36   ` Andrew Jones
2021-09-23 19:16 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] selftests: KVM: Create helper for making SMCCC calls Oliver Upton
2021-10-05 13:39   ` Andrew Jones
2021-09-23 19:16 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] selftests: KVM: Use KVM_SET_MP_STATE to power off vCPU in psci_test Oliver Upton
2021-09-23 19:16 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] selftests: KVM: Refactor psci_test to make it amenable to new tests Oliver Upton
2021-10-05 13:45   ` Andrew Jones
2021-10-05 14:54     ` Oliver Upton
2021-10-05 19:05       ` Andrew Jones
2021-09-23 19:16 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] selftests: KVM: Test SYSTEM_SUSPEND PSCI call Oliver Upton
2021-10-05 13:49   ` Andrew Jones
2021-10-05 15:07     ` Oliver Upton
2021-09-23 20:15 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] KVM: arm64: Implement PSCI SYSTEM_SUSPEND support Oliver Upton

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