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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Zhong, Yang" <yang.zhong@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	"jing2.liu@linux.intel.com" <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Liu, Jing2" <jing2.liu@intel.com>,
	"Zhong, Yang" <yang.zhong@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 15/19] kvm: x86: Save and restore guest XFD_ERR properly
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 14:29:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zgp7uv6g.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB5276DF25E38EE7C4F4D29F288C729@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Kevin,

On Sat, Dec 11 2021 at 03:07, Kevin Tian wrote:
>> From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
>> #NM in the guest is slow path, right? So why are you trying to optimize
>> for it?
>
> This is really good information. The current logic is obviously
> based on the assumption that #NM is frequently triggered.

More context.

When an application want's to use AMX, it invokes the prctl() which
grants permission. If permission is granted then still the kernel FPU
state buffers are default size and XFD is armed.

When a thread of that process issues the first AMX (tile) instruction,
then #NM is raised.

The #NM handler does:

    1) Read MSR_XFD_ERR. If 0, goto regular #NM

    2) Write MSR_XFD_ERR to 0

    3) Check whether the process has permission granted. If not,
       raise SIGILL and return.

    4) Allocate and install a larger FPU state buffer for the task.
       If allocation fails, raise SIGSEGV and return.

    5) Disarm XFD for that task

That means one thread takes at max. one AMX/XFD related #NM during its
lifetime, which means two VMEXITs.

If there are other XFD controlled facilities in the future, then it will
be NR_USED_XFD_CONTROLLED_FACILITIES * 2 VMEXITs per thread which uses
them. Not the end of the world either.

Looking at the targeted application space it's pretty unlikely that
tasks which utilize AMX are going to be so short lived that the overhead
of these VMEXITs really matters.

This of course can be revisited when there is a sane use case, but
optimizing for it prematurely does not buy us anything else than
pointless complexity.

>> The straight forward solution to this is:
>> 
>>     1) Trap #NM and MSR_XFD_ERR write
>
> and #NM vmexit handler should be called in kvm_x86_handle_exit_irqoff()
> before preemption is enabled, otherwise there is still a small window
> where MSR_XFD_ERR might be clobbered after preemption enable and
> before #NM handler is actually called.

Yes.

Thanks,

        tglx


  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-11 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-08  0:03 [PATCH 00/19] AMX Support in KVM Yang Zhong
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 01/19] x86/fpu: Extend prctl() with guest permissions Yang Zhong
2021-12-14  0:16   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 02/19] x86/fpu: Prepare KVM for dynamically enabled states Yang Zhong
2021-12-13  9:12   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-13 12:00     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-13 12:45       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-13 19:50         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 03/19] kvm: x86: Fix xstate_required_size() to follow XSTATE alignment rule Yang Zhong
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 04/19] kvm: x86: Check guest xstate permissions when KVM_SET_CPUID2 Yang Zhong
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 05/19] x86/fpu: Move xfd initialization out of __fpstate_reset() to the callers Yang Zhong
2021-12-10 22:33   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 06/19] x86/fpu: Add reallocation mechanims for KVM Yang Zhong
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 07/19] kvm: x86: Propagate fpstate reallocation error to userspace Yang Zhong
2021-12-10 15:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 08/19] x86/fpu: Move xfd_update_state() to xstate.c and export symbol Yang Zhong
2021-12-10 22:44   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 09/19] kvm: x86: Prepare reallocation check Yang Zhong
2021-12-13  9:16   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-14  7:06     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14 10:16       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-14 14:41         ` Liu, Jing2
2021-12-15  7:09           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 10/19] kvm: x86: Emulate WRMSR of guest IA32_XFD Yang Zhong
2021-12-10 16:02   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-13  7:51     ` Liu, Jing2
2021-12-13  9:01       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-14 10:26     ` Yang Zhong
2021-12-14 11:24       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-10 23:09   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-13 15:06   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-13 19:45     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-13 21:23       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  7:16         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 11/19] kvm: x86: Check fpstate reallocation in XSETBV emulation Yang Zhong
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 12/19] x86/fpu: Prepare KVM for bringing XFD state back in-sync Yang Zhong
2021-12-10 23:11   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 13/19] kvm: x86: Disable WRMSR interception for IA32_XFD on demand Yang Zhong
2021-12-08  7:23   ` Liu, Jing2
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 14/19] x86/fpu: Prepare for KVM XFD_ERR handling Yang Zhong
2021-12-10 16:16   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-10 23:20   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 15/19] kvm: x86: Save and restore guest XFD_ERR properly Yang Zhong
2021-12-10 16:23   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-10 22:01   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-12 13:10     ` Yang Zhong
2021-12-11  0:10   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  1:31     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-11  3:23       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11 13:10       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  3:07     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11 13:29       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2021-12-12  1:50         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12  9:10           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 16/19] kvm: x86: Introduce KVM_{G|S}ET_XSAVE2 ioctl Yang Zhong
2021-12-10 16:25   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-10 16:30   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-10 22:13     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-13  8:23       ` Wang, Wei W
2021-12-13  9:24         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-14  6:06           ` Wang, Wei W
2021-12-14  6:18             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-15  2:39               ` Wang, Wei W
2021-12-15 13:42                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-16  8:25                   ` Wang, Wei W
2021-12-16 10:28                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-20 17:54       ` State Component 18 and Palette 1 (Re: [PATCH 16/19] kvm: x86: Introduce KVM_{G|S}ET_XSAVE2 ioctl) Nakajima, Jun
2021-12-22 14:44         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-22 23:47           ` Nakajima, Jun
2021-12-22 14:52         ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-22 23:51           ` Nakajima, Jun
2021-12-13 10:10     ` [PATCH 16/19] kvm: x86: Introduce KVM_{G|S}ET_XSAVE2 ioctl Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-13 10:43       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-13 12:40         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 17/19] docs: virt: api.rst: Document the new KVM_{G, S}ET_XSAVE2 ioctls Yang Zhong
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 18/19] kvm: x86: AMX XCR0 support for guest Yang Zhong
2021-12-10 16:30   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-08  0:03 ` [PATCH 19/19] kvm: x86: Add AMX CPUIDs support Yang Zhong
2021-12-10 21:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-11 21:20 ` [PATCH 00/19] AMX Support in KVM Thomas Gleixner

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