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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: devel@ovirt.org, openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org,
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	hejie.xu@intel.com, kevin.tian@intel.com,
	zhenyuw@linux.intel.com, bao.yumeng@zte.com.cn,
	xin-ran.wang@intel.com, shaohe.feng@intel.com
Subject: Re: device compatibility interface for live migration with assigned devices
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:41:47 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <95c13c9b-daab-469b-f244-a0f741f1b41d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200717101258.65555978@x1.home>


On 2020/7/18 上午12:12, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 16:32:30 +0800
> Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:16:26PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>> On 2020/7/14 上午7:29, Yan Zhao wrote:
>>>> hi folks,
>>>> we are defining a device migration compatibility interface that helps upper
>>>> layer stack like openstack/ovirt/libvirt to check if two devices are
>>>> live migration compatible.
>>>> The "devices" here could be MDEVs, physical devices, or hybrid of the two.
>>>> e.g. we could use it to check whether
>>>> - a src MDEV can migrate to a target MDEV,
>>>> - a src VF in SRIOV can migrate to a target VF in SRIOV,
>>>> - a src MDEV can migration to a target VF in SRIOV.
>>>>     (e.g. SIOV/SRIOV backward compatibility case)
>>>>
>>>> The upper layer stack could use this interface as the last step to check
>>>> if one device is able to migrate to another device before triggering a real
>>>> live migration procedure.
>>>> we are not sure if this interface is of value or help to you. please don't
>>>> hesitate to drop your valuable comments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (1) interface definition
>>>> The interface is defined in below way:
>>>>
>>>>                __    userspace
>>>>                 /\              \
>>>>                /                 \write
>>>>               / read              \
>>>>      ________/__________       ___\|/_____________
>>>>     | migration_version |     | migration_version |-->check migration
>>>>     ---------------------     ---------------------   compatibility
>>>>        device A                    device B
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a device attribute named migration_version is defined under each device's
>>>> sysfs node. e.g. (/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:00\:02.0/$mdev_UUID/migration_version).
>>>
>>> Are you aware of the devlink based device management interface that is
>>> proposed upstream? I think it has many advantages over sysfs, do you
>>> consider to switch to that?
>
> Advantages, such as?


My understanding for devlink(netlink) over sysfs (some are mentioned at 
the time of vDPA sysfs mgmt API discussion) are:

- existing users (NIC, crypto, SCSI, ib), mature and stable
- much better error reporting (ext_ack other than string or errno)
- namespace aware
- do not couple with kobject

Thanks


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-20  3:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-13 23:29 device compatibility interface for live migration with assigned devices Yan Zhao
2020-07-14 10:21 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-14 12:33   ` Sean Mooney
     [not found]     ` <20200714110148.0471c03c@x1.home>
     [not found]       ` <eb705c72cdc8b6b8959b6ebaeeac6069a718d524.camel@redhat.com>
2020-07-14 21:15         ` Sean Mooney
2020-07-14 16:16   ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-14 16:47     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-14 20:47       ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-15  9:16         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-14 17:19     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-07-14 20:59       ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-15  8:20         ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-15  8:49           ` Feng, Shaohe
2020-07-17 14:59           ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-17 18:03             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-07-17 18:30               ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-15  8:23         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
     [not found]         ` <CAH7mGatPWsczh_rbVhx4a+psJXvkZgKou3r5HrEQTqE7SqZkKA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-07-17 15:18           ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-16  4:16 ` Jason Wang
2020-07-16  8:32   ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-16  9:30     ` Jason Wang
2020-07-17 16:12     ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-20  3:41       ` Jason Wang [this message]
2020-07-20 10:39         ` Sean Mooney
2020-07-21  2:11           ` Jason Wang
2020-07-21  0:51       ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-27  7:24         ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-27 22:23           ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-29  8:05             ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-29 11:28               ` Sean Mooney
2020-07-29 19:12                 ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-30  3:41                   ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-30 13:24                     ` Sean Mooney
2020-07-30 17:29                     ` Alex Williamson
2020-08-04  8:37                       ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-05  9:44                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-07-30  1:56                 ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-30 13:14                   ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-04 16:35               ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-05  2:22                 ` Jason Wang
2020-08-05  2:16                   ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-05  2:41                     ` Jason Wang
2020-08-05  7:56                       ` Jiri Pirko
2020-08-05  8:02                         ` Jason Wang
2020-08-05  9:33                           ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-05 10:53                             ` Jiri Pirko
2020-08-05 11:35                               ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-07 11:59                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-13 15:33                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-13 19:02                                     ` Eric Farman
2020-08-17  6:38                                       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-10  7:46                               ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-13  4:24                                 ` Jason Wang
2020-08-14  5:16                                   ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-14 12:30                                     ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-17  1:52                                       ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-18  3:24                                     ` Jason Wang
2020-08-18  8:55                                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-18  9:06                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-18  9:24                                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-18  9:38                                             ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]                                         ` <3a073222-dcfe-c02d-198b-29f6a507b2e1@redhat.com>
2020-08-18  9:16                                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-18  9:36                                             ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-18  9:39                                               ` Parav Pandit
2020-08-19  3:30                                                 ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-19  5:58                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2020-08-19  9:41                                                     ` Jason Wang
2020-08-19  6:57                                                   ` [ovirt-devel] " Jason Wang
2020-08-19  6:59                                                     ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-19  7:39                                                       ` Jason Wang
2020-08-19  8:13                                                         ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-19  9:28                                                           ` Jason Wang
2020-08-20 12:27                                                             ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-21  3:14                                                               ` Jason Wang
2020-08-21 14:52                                                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-31  3:07                                                                   ` Jason Wang
2020-08-19 17:50                                                   ` Alex Williamson
2020-08-20  0:18                                                     ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-20  3:13                                                       ` Alex Williamson
2020-08-20  3:09                                                         ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-19  2:54                                               ` Jason Wang
2020-08-20  0:39                                               ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-20  1:29                                                 ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-20  4:01                                                   ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-20  5:16                                                     ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-20  6:27                                                       ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-20 13:24                                                         ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-26  8:54                                                           ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-20  3:22                                                 ` Alex Williamson
2020-08-20  3:16                                                   ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-25 14:39                                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-26  6:41                                                       ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-28 13:47                                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-28 14:04                                                           ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-31  4:43                                                             ` Yan Zhao
2020-09-08 14:41                                                               ` Cornelia Huck
2020-09-09  2:13                                                                 ` Yan Zhao
2020-09-10 12:38                                                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-09-10 12:50                                                                     ` Sean Mooney
2020-09-10 18:02                                                                       ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-11  0:56                                                                         ` Yan Zhao
2020-09-11 10:08                                                                           ` Cornelia Huck
2020-09-11 10:18                                                                             ` Tian, Kevin
2020-09-11 16:51                                                                           ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-14 13:48                                                                             ` Zeng, Xin
2020-09-14 14:44                                                                               ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-09  5:37                                                               ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-31  2:23                                                           ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-19  2:38                                             ` Jason Wang
2020-08-18  9:32                                           ` Parav Pandit
2020-08-19  2:45                                             ` Jason Wang
2020-08-19  5:26                                               ` Parav Pandit
2020-08-19  6:48                                                 ` Jason Wang
2020-08-19  6:53                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2020-07-29 19:05             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert

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