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From: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: "alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>,
	"kwankhede@nvidia.com" <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 5/6] mdev: Update sysfs documentation
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 03:53:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM0PR05MB4866F561B753094BE0824411D1B90@AM0PR05MB4866.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190902163658.51fc48d2.cohuck@redhat.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 8:07 PM
> To: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
> Cc: alex.williamson@redhat.com; Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>;
> kwankhede@nvidia.com; davem@davemloft.net; kvm@vger.kernel.org;
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; netdev@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] mdev: Update sysfs documentation
> 
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:10:17 +0000
> Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com> wrote:
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 6:19 PM
> > > To: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
> > > Cc: alex.williamson@redhat.com; Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>;
> > > kwankhede@nvidia.com; davem@davemloft.net; kvm@vger.kernel.org;
> > > linux- kernel@vger.kernel.org; netdev@vger.kernel.org
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] mdev: Update sysfs documentation
> > >
> > > On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 06:19:03 -0500
> > > Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Updated documentation for optional read only sysfs attribute.
> > >
> > > I'd probably merge this into the patch introducing the attribute.
> > >
> > Ok. I will spin v3.
> >
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  Documentation/driver-api/vfio-mediated-device.rst | 5 +++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/driver-api/vfio-mediated-device.rst
> > > > b/Documentation/driver-api/vfio-mediated-device.rst
> > > > index 25eb7d5b834b..0ab03d3f5629 100644
> > > > --- a/Documentation/driver-api/vfio-mediated-device.rst
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/driver-api/vfio-mediated-device.rst
> > > > @@ -270,6 +270,7 @@ Directories and Files Under the sysfs for Each
> > > > mdev
> > > Device
> > > >           |--- remove
> > > >           |--- mdev_type {link to its type}
> > > >           |--- vendor-specific-attributes [optional]
> > > > +         |--- alias [optional]
> > >
> > > "optional" implies "not always present" to me, not "might return a
> > > read error if not available". Don't know if there's a better way to
> > > tag this? Or make it really optional? :)
> >
> > May be write it as,
> >
> > alias [ optional when requested by parent ]
> 
> I'm not sure what 'optional when requested' is supposed to mean...
> maybe something like 'content optional' or so?
> 
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >  * remove (write only)
> > > >
> > > > @@ -281,6 +282,10 @@ Example::
> > > >
> > > >  	# echo 1 > /sys/bus/mdev/devices/$mdev_UUID/remove
> > > >
> > > > +* alias (read only)
> > > > +Whenever a parent requested to generate an alias, each mdev is
> > > > +assigned a unique alias by the mdev core. This file shows the
> > > > +alias of the
> > > mdev device.
> > >
> > > It's not really the parent, but the vendor driver requesting this,
> > > right? Also,
> > At mdev level, it only knows parent->ops structure, whether parent is
> registered by vendor driver or something else.
> 
> Who else is supposed to create the mdev device?
If you nitpick the language what is the vendor id for sample mttty driver?
Mtty is not a 'vendor driver' per say.

> 
> >
> > > "each mdev" is a bit ambiguous,
> > It is in context of the parent. Sentence is not starting with "each mdev".
> > But may be more verbosely written as,
> >
> > Whenever a parent requested to generate an alias, Each mdev device of
> > such parent is assigned unique alias by the mdev core. This file shows the
> alias of the mdev device.
> 
> I'd really leave the parent out of this: this seems more like an
> implementation detail. It's more that alias may either contain an alias, or
> return a read error if no alias has been generated. Who requested the alias
> to be generated is probably not really of interest to the userspace reader.
>

The documentation is for user and developer both.
It is not the right claim that 'only user care' for this.
Otherwise all the .ko diagrams and API description etc doesn't make any sense to the user.

For user it doesn't matter whether alias length is provided by 'vendor driver' or 'registered parent'.
This note on who should specify the alias length is mainly for the developers.
 
> >
> > > created via that driver. Lastly, if we stick with the "returns an
> > > error if not implemented" approach, that should also be mentioned
> here.
> > Ok. Will spin v3 to describe it.
> >
> > >
> > > > +
> > > >  Mediated device Hot plug
> > > >  ------------------------
> > > >
> >


  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-03  3:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-26 20:41 [PATCH 0/4] Introduce variable length mdev alias Parav Pandit
2019-08-26 20:41 ` [PATCH 1/4] mdev: Introduce sha1 based " Parav Pandit
2019-08-27  1:44   ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-27  1:51     ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-27  4:24     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 10:24   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 11:12     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 11:24       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 11:33         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 11:41           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 11:57             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 13:35               ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 16:50                 ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-27 11:16     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-26 20:41 ` [PATCH 2/4] mdev: Make mdev alias unique among all mdevs Parav Pandit
2019-08-26 23:02   ` Mark Bloch
2019-08-27  4:28     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 15:23       ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-27 16:16         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 10:29   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 11:08     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 11:29       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 15:28         ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-27 15:39           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 16:13           ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 16:24             ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-27 18:54               ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-26 20:41 ` [PATCH 3/4] mdev: Expose mdev alias in sysfs tree Parav Pandit
2019-08-27  1:53   ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-27  3:30     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 10:47   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 11:07     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 11:34       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 11:52         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 11:55           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 12:00             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-26 20:41 ` [PATCH 4/4] mtty: Optionally support mtty alias Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 13:11 ` [PATCH 0/4] Introduce variable length mdev alias Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 13:31   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 17:48   ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-27 18:11     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 19:16 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] " Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 19:16   ` [PATCH v1 1/5] mdev: Introduce sha1 based " Parav Pandit
2019-08-28 21:25     ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-28 21:34       ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-29  9:07         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-29  9:06       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 19:16   ` [PATCH v1 2/5] mdev: Make mdev alias unique among all mdevs Parav Pandit
2019-08-28 21:36     ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-29  9:07       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 19:16   ` [PATCH v1 3/5] mdev: Expose mdev alias in sysfs tree Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 19:16   ` [PATCH v1 4/5] mdev: Update sysfs documentation Parav Pandit
2019-08-27 19:16   ` [PATCH v1 5/5] mtty: Optionally support mtty alias Parav Pandit
2019-08-29 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Introduce variable length mdev alias Parav Pandit
2019-08-29 11:18   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] mdev: Introduce sha1 based " Parav Pandit
2019-08-29 12:26     ` Yunsheng Lin
2019-08-30  2:27       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-30  9:17     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-30 12:33       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-30 12:39         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-30 12:58           ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-30 14:02             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-30 15:45               ` Parav Pandit
2019-09-02 14:46                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-09-03  3:47                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-29 11:19   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] mdev: Make mdev alias unique among all mdevs Parav Pandit
2019-08-29 12:31     ` Yunsheng Lin
2019-08-30 12:40     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-30 12:59       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-29 11:19   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] mdev: Expose mdev alias in sysfs tree Parav Pandit
2019-08-29 11:19   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] mdev: Introduce an API mdev_alias Parav Pandit
2019-08-29 11:19   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] mdev: Update sysfs documentation Parav Pandit
2019-08-30 12:49     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-30 13:10       ` Parav Pandit
2019-09-02 14:36         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-09-03  3:53           ` Parav Pandit [this message]
2019-08-29 11:19   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] mtty: Optionally support mtty alias Parav Pandit
2019-09-02  4:24 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Introduce variable length mdev alias Parav Pandit
2019-09-02  4:24   ` [PATCH v3 1/5] mdev: Introduce sha1 based " Parav Pandit
2019-09-17 10:03     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-09-02  4:24   ` [PATCH v3 2/5] mdev: Make mdev alias unique among all mdevs Parav Pandit
2019-09-17 10:04     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-09-02  4:24   ` [PATCH v3 3/5] mdev: Expose mdev alias in sysfs tree Parav Pandit
2019-09-17 10:08     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-09-02  4:24   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] mdev: Introduce an API mdev_alias Parav Pandit
2019-09-17 10:10     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-09-02  4:24   ` [PATCH v3 5/5] mtty: Optionally support mtty alias Parav Pandit
2019-09-09 20:42   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Introduce variable length mdev alias Parav Pandit
2019-09-11 13:56     ` Alex Williamson
2019-09-11 15:30       ` Parav Pandit
2019-09-11 16:29         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-09-11 16:38         ` Parav Pandit
2019-09-13 21:32           ` Alex Williamson
2019-09-13 23:19             ` Parav Pandit
2019-09-17 10:13   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-09-18 17:15     ` Parav Pandit

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