From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
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Subject: RE: [RFC 06/20] iommu: Add iommu_device_init[exit]_user_dma interfaces
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 01:47:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN9PR11MB5433DA330D4583387B59AA7F8CA29@BN9PR11MB5433.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210921170943.GS327412@nvidia.com>
> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:10 AM
>
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 02:38:34PM +0800, Liu Yi L wrote:
> > From: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
> >
> > This extends iommu core to manage security context for passthrough
> > devices. Please bear a long explanation for how we reach this design
> > instead of managing it solely in iommufd like what vfio does today.
> >
> > Devices which cannot be isolated from each other are organized into an
> > iommu group. When a device is assigned to the user space, the entire
> > group must be put in a security context so that user-initiated DMAs via
> > the assigned device cannot harm the rest of the system. No user access
> > should be granted on a device before the security context is established
> > for the group which the device belongs to.
>
> > Managing the security context must meet below criteria:
> >
> > 1) The group is viable for user-initiated DMAs. This implies that the
> > devices in the group must be either bound to a device-passthrough
>
> s/a/the same/
>
> > framework, or driver-less, or bound to a driver which is known safe
> > (not do DMA).
> >
> > 2) The security context should only allow DMA to the user's memory and
> > devices in this group;
> >
> > 3) After the security context is established for the group, the group
> > viability must be continuously monitored before the user relinquishes
> > all devices belonging to the group. The viability might be broken e.g.
> > when a driver-less device is later bound to a driver which does DMA.
> >
> > 4) The security context should not be destroyed before user access
> > permission is withdrawn.
> >
> > Existing vfio introduces explicit container/group semantics in its uAPI
> > to meet above requirements. A single security context (iommu domain)
> > is created per container. Attaching group to container moves the entire
> > group into the associated security context, and vice versa. The user can
> > open the device only after group attach. A group can be detached only
> > after all devices in the group are closed. Group viability is monitored
> > by listening to iommu group events.
> >
> > Unlike vfio, iommufd adopts a device-centric design with all group
> > logistics hidden behind the fd. Binding a device to iommufd serves
> > as the contract to get security context established (and vice versa
> > for unbinding). One additional requirement in iommufd is to manage the
> > switch between multiple security contexts due to decoupled bind/attach:
>
> This should be a precursor series that actually does clean things up
> properly. There is no reason for vfio and iommufd to differ here, if
> we are implementing this logic into the iommu layer then it should be
> deleted from the VFIO layer, not left duplicated like this.
make sense
>
> IIRC in VFIO the container is the IOAS and when the group goes to
> create the device fd it should simply do the
> iommu_device_init_user_dma() followed immediately by a call to bind
> the container IOAS as your #3.
a slight correction.
to meet vfio semantics we could do init_user_dma() at group attach
time and then call binding to container IOAS when the device fd
is created. This is because vfio requires the group in a security context
before the device is opened.
>
> Then delete all the group viability stuff from vfio, relying on the
> iommu to do it.
>
> It should have full symmetry with the iommufd.
agree
>
> > @@ -1664,6 +1671,17 @@ static int iommu_bus_notifier(struct
> notifier_block *nb,
> > group_action = IOMMU_GROUP_NOTIFY_BIND_DRIVER;
> > break;
> > case BUS_NOTIFY_BOUND_DRIVER:
> > + /*
> > + * FIXME: Alternatively the attached drivers could generically
> > + * indicate to the iommu layer that they are safe for keeping
> > + * the iommu group user viable by calling some function
> around
> > + * probe(). We could eliminate this gross BUG_ON() by
> denying
> > + * probe to non-iommu-safe driver.
> > + */
> > + mutex_lock(&group->mutex);
> > + if (group->user_dma_owner_id)
> > + BUG_ON(!iommu_group_user_dma_viable(group));
> > + mutex_unlock(&group->mutex);
>
> And the mini-series should fix this BUG_ON properly by interlocking
> with the driver core to simply refuse to bind a driver under these
> conditions instead of allowing userspace to crash the kernel.
>
> That alone would be justification enough to merge this work.
yes
>
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * IOMMU core interfaces for iommufd.
> > + */
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * FIXME: We currently simply follow vifo policy to mantain the group's
> > + * viability to user. Eventually, we should avoid below hard-coded list
> > + * by letting drivers indicate to the iommu layer that they are safe for
> > + * keeping the iommu group's user aviability.
> > + */
> > +static const char * const iommu_driver_allowed[] = {
> > + "vfio-pci",
> > + "pci-stub"
> > +};
>
> Yuk. This should be done with some callback in those drivers
> 'iomm_allow_user_dma()"
>
> Ie the basic flow would see the driver core doing some:
Just double confirm. Is there concern on having the driver core to
call iommu functions?
>
> ret = iommu_doing_kernel_dma()
> if (ret) do not bind
> driver_bind
> pci_stub_probe()
> iommu_allow_user_dma()
>
> And the various functions are manipulating some atomic.
> 0 = nothing happening
> 1 = kernel DMA
> 2 = user DMA
>
> No BUG_ON.
>
> Jason
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Thread overview: 274+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-19 6:38 [RFC 00/20] Introduce /dev/iommu for userspace I/O address space management Liu Yi L
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 01/20] iommu/iommufd: Add /dev/iommu core Liu Yi L
2021-09-21 15:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 1:51 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 12:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 13:59 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 14:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-15 9:18 ` Liu, Yi L
2021-10-15 11:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-15 11:29 ` Liu, Yi L
2021-10-19 16:57 ` Jacob Pan
2021-10-19 16:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-19 17:11 ` Jacob Pan
2021-10-19 17:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 02/20] vfio: Add device class for /dev/vfio/devices Liu Yi L
2021-09-21 15:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-21 23:56 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 0:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 1:07 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 12:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 3:22 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 12:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 14:09 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-21 19:56 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-22 0:56 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-29 2:08 ` David Gibson
2021-09-29 19:05 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-30 2:43 ` David Gibson
2021-10-20 12:39 ` Liu, Yi L
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 03/20] vfio: Add vfio_[un]register_device() Liu Yi L
2021-09-21 16:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-21 23:10 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 0:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 0:59 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 9:23 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 12:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 13:44 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 20:10 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-22 22:34 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 22:45 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-22 23:45 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 23:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-23 0:38 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 23:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 0:54 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 1:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 1:02 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-23 7:25 ` Eric Auger
2021-09-23 11:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-29 2:46 ` david
2021-09-29 12:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30 2:48 ` david
2021-09-29 2:43 ` David Gibson
2021-09-29 3:40 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-29 5:30 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-29 7:08 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-09-29 12:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 04/20] iommu: Add iommu_device_get_info interface Liu Yi L
2021-09-21 16:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 2:31 ` Lu Baolu
2021-09-22 5:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-29 2:52 ` David Gibson
2021-09-29 9:25 ` Lu Baolu
2021-09-29 9:29 ` Lu Baolu
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 05/20] vfio/pci: Register device to /dev/vfio/devices Liu Yi L
2021-09-21 16:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-21 21:09 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-21 21:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 1:24 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 1:19 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 21:17 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-22 23:49 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 06/20] iommu: Add iommu_device_init[exit]_user_dma interfaces Liu Yi L
2021-09-21 17:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 1:47 ` Tian, Kevin [this message]
2021-09-22 12:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 13:56 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-27 9:42 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-27 11:34 ` Lu Baolu
2021-09-27 13:08 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-27 11:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-27 13:00 ` Tian, Kevin
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2021-09-28 13:35 ` Lu Baolu
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2021-09-29 12:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-15 1:29 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-10-15 11:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-18 1:52 ` Tian, Kevin
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2021-09-29 2:29 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-29 2:38 ` Lu Baolu
2021-09-29 4:55 ` David Gibson
2021-09-29 5:38 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-29 6:35 ` David Gibson
2021-09-29 7:31 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-30 3:05 ` David Gibson
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2021-09-30 3:09 ` David Gibson
2021-09-30 22:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-01 3:54 ` David Gibson
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 07/20] iommu/iommufd: Add iommufd_[un]bind_device() Liu Yi L
2021-09-21 17:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-15 9:21 ` Liu, Yi L
2021-09-29 5:25 ` David Gibson
2021-09-29 12:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30 3:10 ` David Gibson
2021-10-01 12:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-07 1:23 ` David Gibson
2021-10-07 11:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-11 3:24 ` David Gibson
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 08/20] vfio/pci: Add VFIO_DEVICE_BIND_IOMMUFD Liu Yi L
2021-09-21 17:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 21:01 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-22 23:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2021-09-29 22:34 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-30 3:12 ` David Gibson
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 09/20] iommu: Add page size and address width attributes Liu Yi L
2021-09-22 13:42 ` Eric Auger
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2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 10/20] iommu/iommufd: Add IOMMU_DEVICE_GET_INFO Liu Yi L
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2021-10-01 6:13 ` David Gibson
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2021-10-14 6:53 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-10-25 5:05 ` David Gibson
2021-10-27 2:32 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 12/20] iommu/iommufd: Add IOMMU_CHECK_EXTENSION Liu Yi L
2021-09-21 17:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 3:41 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 12:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 14:13 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 13/20] iommu: Extend iommu_at[de]tach_device() for multiple devices group Liu Yi L
2021-10-14 5:24 ` David Gibson
2021-10-14 7:06 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-10-18 3:57 ` David Gibson
2021-10-18 16:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-25 5:14 ` David Gibson
2021-10-25 12:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-25 13:16 ` David Gibson
2021-10-25 23:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-26 9:23 ` David Gibson
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 14/20] iommu/iommufd: Add iommufd_device_[de]attach_ioasid() Liu Yi L
2021-09-21 18:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 3:53 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 12:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 14:16 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 15/20] vfio/pci: Add VFIO_DEVICE_[DE]ATTACH_IOASID Liu Yi L
2021-09-21 18:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 3:56 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-22 12:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 14:17 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 16/20] vfio/type1: Export symbols for dma [un]map code sharing Liu Yi L
2021-09-21 18:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 3:57 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 17/20] iommu/iommufd: Report iova range to userspace Liu Yi L
2021-09-22 14:49 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-09-29 10:44 ` Liu, Yi L
2021-09-29 12:07 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-09-29 12:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 18/20] iommu/iommufd: Add IOMMU_[UN]MAP_DMA on IOASID Liu Yi L
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 19/20] iommu/vt-d: Implement device_info iommu_ops callback Liu Yi L
2021-09-19 6:38 ` [RFC 20/20] Doc: Add documentation for /dev/iommu Liu Yi L
2021-10-29 0:15 ` David Gibson
2021-10-29 12:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-19 6:45 ` [RFC 00/20] Introduce /dev/iommu for userspace I/O address space management Liu, Yi L
2021-09-21 13:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 3:25 ` Liu, Yi L
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