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From: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] KVM: x86: Fix CPUID range check for Centaur and Hypervisor ranges
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 10:08:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALMp9eRUPP_89mNwRTMpm6vg2jcaYNvj7R5yLK6HhLrub-iAEg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200303180122.GO1439@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 10:01 AM Sean Christopherson
<sean.j.christopherson@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 09:42:42AM -0800, Jim Mattson wrote:
> > Unfathomable was the wrong word.
>
> I dunno, one could argue that the behavior of Intel CPUs for CPUID is
> unfathomable and I was just trying to follow suit :-D
>
> >  I can see what you're trying to do. I
> > just don't think it's defensible. I suspect that Intel CPU architects
> > will be surprised and disappointed to find that the maximum effective
> > value of CPUID.0H:EAX is now 255, and that they have to define
> > CPUID.100H:EAX as the "maximum leaf between 100H and 1FFH" if they
> > want to define any leaves between 100H and 1FFH.
>
> Hmm, ya, I agree that applying a 0xffffff00 mask to all classes of CPUID
> ranges is straight up wrong.
>
> > Furthermore, AMD has only ceded 4000_0000h through 4000_00FFh to
> > hypervisors, so kvm's use of 40000100H through 400001FFH appears to be
> > a land grab, akin to VIA's unilateral grab of the C0000000H leaves.
> > Admittedly, one could argue that the 40000000H leaves are not AMD's to
> > apportion, since AMD and Intel appear to have reached a detente by
> > splitting the available space down the middle. Intel, who seems to be
> > the recognized authority for this range, declares the entire range
> > from 40000000H through 4FFFFFFFH to be invalid. Make of that what you
> > will.
> >
> > In any event, no one has ever documented what's supposed to happen if
> > you leave gaps in the 4xxxxxxxH range when defining synthesized CPUID
> > leaves under kvm.
>
> Probably stating the obvious, but for me, the least suprising thing is for
> such leafs to output zeros.  It also feels safer, e.g. a guest that's
> querying hypervisor support is less likely to be led astray by all zeros
> than by a random feature bits being set.
>
> What about something like this?  Along with a comment and documentation...
>
> static bool cpuid_function_in_range(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, u32 function)
> {
>         struct kvm_cpuid_entry2 *max;
>
>         if (function >= 0x40000000 && function <= 0x4fffffff)
>                 max = kvm_find_cpuid_entry(vcpu, function & 0xffffff00, 0);
>         else
>                 max = kvm_find_cpuid_entry(vcpu, function & 0x80000000, 0);
>         return max && function <= max->eax;
> }

I can get behind that. The behavior of the 4xxxxxxxH leaves under kvm
is arguably up to kvm (though AMD may disagree).

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-03 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-02 19:57 [PATCH 0/6] KVM: x86: CPUID emulation and tracing fixes Sean Christopherson
2020-03-02 19:57 ` [PATCH 1/6] KVM: x86: Fix tracing of CPUID.function when function is out-of-range Sean Christopherson
2020-03-02 20:26   ` Jan Kiszka
2020-03-02 20:49     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-03-02 20:59       ` Jan Kiszka
2020-03-03  2:27       ` Xiaoyao Li
2020-03-03  3:45         ` Sean Christopherson
2020-03-03  4:02           ` Xiaoyao Li
2020-03-03  4:12             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-03-03  4:30               ` Xiaoyao Li
2020-03-03  2:50   ` Xiaoyao Li
2020-03-03  4:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-03-03  4:16       ` Xiaoyao Li
2020-03-02 19:57 ` [PATCH 2/6] KVM: x86: Fix CPUID range check for Centaur and Hypervisor ranges Sean Christopherson
2020-03-02 21:59   ` Jim Mattson
2020-03-03  0:57     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-03-03  3:25   ` Jim Mattson
2020-03-03  4:25     ` Jim Mattson
2020-03-03  4:58       ` Sean Christopherson
2020-03-03 17:42         ` Jim Mattson
2020-03-03 18:01           ` Sean Christopherson
2020-03-03 18:08             ` Jim Mattson [this message]
2020-03-04 11:18             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-03-02 19:57 ` [PATCH 3/6] KVM: x86: Add dedicated emulator helper for grabbing CPUID.maxphyaddr Sean Christopherson
2020-03-03  8:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-03-03  9:48     ` Jan Kiszka
2020-03-03 10:14       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-03-04 20:47         ` Sean Christopherson
2020-03-03 16:28     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-03-03 17:21       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-03-02 19:57 ` [PATCH 4/6] KVM: x86: Drop return value from kvm_cpuid() Sean Christopherson
2020-03-02 19:57 ` [PATCH 5/6] KVM: x86: Rename "found" variable in kvm_cpuid() to "exact_entry_exists" Sean Christopherson
2020-03-02 20:20   ` Jan Kiszka
2020-03-02 20:35     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-03-02 20:48       ` Jan Kiszka
2020-03-02 19:57 ` [PATCH 6/6] KVM: x86: Add requested index to the CPUID tracepoint Sean Christopherson
2020-03-07  9:48   ` Jan Kiszka
2020-03-10  4:00     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-03-03  8:48 ` [PATCH 0/6] KVM: x86: CPUID emulation and tracing fixes Paolo Bonzini
2020-03-03 16:38   ` Sean Christopherson

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