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From: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Cc: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Aaron Lewis <aaronlewis@google.com>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3] x86: Add RDTSC test
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 09:59:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALMp9eRrE5onJT4HgfCqrxMYYVjaeVMDT4YKVA2mr4jfT7jkaA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200127205606.GC2523@linux.intel.com>

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 12:56 PM Sean Christopherson
<sean.j.christopherson@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 11:24:31AM -0800, Jim Mattson wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 8:36 PM Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Jan 26, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If I had to guess, you probably have SMM malware on your host. Remove
> > > > the malware, and the test should pass.
> > >
> > > Well, malware will always be an option, but I doubt this is the case.
> >
> > Was my innuendo too subtle? I consider any code executing in SMM to be malware.
>
> SMI complications seem unlikely.  The straw that broke the camel's back
> was a 1152 cyle delta, presumably the other failing runs had similar deltas.
> I've never benchmarked SMI+RSM, but I highly doubt it comes anywhere close
> to VM-Enter/VM-Exit's super optimized ~400 cycle round trip.  E.g. I
> wouldn't be surprised if just SMI+RSM is over 1500 cycles.

Good point. What generation of hardware are you running on, Nadav?

> > > Interestingly, in the last few times the failure did not reproduce. Yet,
> > > thinking about it made me concerned about MTRRs configuration, and that
> > > perhaps performance is affected by memory marked as UC after boot, since
> > > kvm-unit-test does not reset MTRRs.
> > >
> > > Reading the variable range MTRRs, I do see some ranges marked as UC (most of
> > > the range 2GB-4GB, if I read the MTRRs correctly):
> > >
> > >   MSR 0x200 = 0x80000000
> > >   MSR 0x201 = 0x3fff80000800
> > >   MSR 0x202 = 0xff000005
> > >   MSR 0x203 = 0x3fffff000800
> > >   MSR 0x204 = 0x38000000000
> > >   MSR 0x205 = 0x3f8000000800
> > >
> > > Do you think we should set the MTRRs somehow in KVM-unit-tests? If yes, can
> > > you suggest a reasonable configuration?
> >
> > I would expect MTRR issues to result in repeatable failures. For
> > instance, if your VMCS ended up in UC memory, that might slow things
> > down quite a bit. But, I would expect the VMCS to end up at the same
> > address each time the test is run.
>
> Agreed on the repeatable failures part, but putting the VMCS in UC memory
> shouldn't affect this type of test.  The CPU's internal VMCS cache isn't
> coherent, and IIRC isn't disabled if the MTRRs for the VMCS happen to be
> UC.

But the internal VMCS cache only contains selected fields, doesn't it?
Uncached fields would have to be written to memory on VM-exit. Or are
all of the mutable fields in the internal VMCS cache?

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-28 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-02 20:43 [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3] x86: Add RDTSC test Aaron Lewis
2019-12-03  1:51 ` Liran Alon
2019-12-04 11:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-01-24 23:13 ` Nadav Amit
2020-01-24 23:38   ` Sean Christopherson
2020-01-25  0:06     ` Nadav Amit
2020-01-26 22:06       ` Jim Mattson
2020-01-27  4:36         ` Nadav Amit
2020-01-27 19:24           ` Jim Mattson
2020-01-27 20:56             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-01-28 17:59               ` Jim Mattson [this message]
2020-01-28 18:32                 ` Nadav Amit
2020-01-28 18:33                 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-01-28 18:42                   ` Nadav Amit
2020-01-28 18:43                     ` Jim Mattson
2020-01-28 19:03                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-01-28 19:34                         ` Jim Mattson
2020-01-25  9:43   ` Paolo Bonzini

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