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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 1/8] mm/memfd: Introduce userspace inaccessible memfd
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 16:53:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y1LOe4JvnTbFNs4u@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221021135434.GB3607894@chaop.bj.intel.com>

On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, Chao Peng wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 04:20:58PM +0530, Vishal Annapurve wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 9:02 PM Kirill A . Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 07:12:10PM +0530, Vishal Annapurve wrote:
> > > > I think moving this notifier_invalidate before fallocate may not solve
> > > > the problem completely. Is it possible that between invalidate and
> > > > fallocate, KVM tries to handle the page fault for the guest VM from
> > > > another vcpu and uses the pages to be freed to back gpa ranges? Should
> > > > hole punching here also update mem_attr first to say that KVM should
> > > > consider the corresponding gpa ranges to be no more backed by
> > > > inaccessible memfd?
> > >
> > > We rely on external synchronization to prevent this. See code around
> > > mmu_invalidate_retry_hva().
> > >
> > > --
> > >   Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov
> > 
> > IIUC, mmu_invalidate_retry_hva/gfn ensures that page faults on gfn
> > ranges that are being invalidated are retried till invalidation is
> > complete. In this case, is it possible that KVM tries to serve the
> > page fault after inaccessible_notifier_invalidate is complete but
> > before fallocate could punch hole into the files?

It's not just the page fault edge case.  In the more straightforward scenario
where the memory is already mapped into the guest, freeing pages back to the kernel
before they are removed from the guest will lead to use-after-free.

> > e.g.
> > inaccessible_notifier_invalidate(...)
> > ... (system event preempting this control flow, giving a window for
> > the guest to retry accessing the gfn range which was invalidated)
> > fallocate(.., PUNCH_HOLE..)
> 
> Looks this is something can happen.
> And sounds to me the solution needs
> just follow the mmu_notifier's way of using a invalidate_start/end pair.
> 
>   invalidate_start()  --> kvm->mmu_invalidate_in_progress++;
>                           zap KVM page table entries;
>   fallocate()
>   invalidate_end()  --> kvm->mmu_invalidate_in_progress--;
> 
> Then during invalidate_start/end time window mmu_invalidate_retry_gfn
> checks 'mmu_invalidate_in_progress' and prevent repopulating the same
> page in KVM page table.

Yes, if it's not safe to invalidate after making the change (fallocate()), then
the change needs to be bookended by a start+end pair.  The mmu_notifier's unpaired
invalidate() hook works by zapping the primary MMU's PTEs before invalidate(), but
frees the underlying physical page _after_ invalidate().

And the only reason the unpaired invalidate() exists is because there are secondary
MMUs that reuse the primary MMU's page tables, e.g. shared virtual addressing, in
which case bookending doesn't work because the secondary MMU can't remove PTEs, it
can only flush its TLBs.

For this case, the whole point is to not create PTEs in the primary MMU, so there
should never be a use case that _needs_ an unpaired invalidate().

TL;DR: a start+end pair is likely the simplest solution.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-21 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-15 14:29 [PATCH v8 0/8] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM Chao Peng
2022-09-15 14:29 ` [PATCH v8 1/8] mm/memfd: Introduce userspace inaccessible memfd Chao Peng
2022-09-19  9:12   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-19 19:10     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-21 21:10       ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-09-22 13:23         ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-23 15:20         ` Fuad Tabba
2022-09-23 15:19       ` Fuad Tabba
2022-09-26 14:23         ` Chao Peng
2022-09-26 15:51           ` Fuad Tabba
2022-09-27 22:47             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-30 16:19               ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-13 13:34                 ` Chao Peng
2022-10-17 10:31                   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-17 14:58                     ` Chao Peng
2022-10-17 19:05                       ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-19 13:30                         ` Chao Peng
2022-10-18  0:33                 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-19 15:04                   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-09-23  0:58     ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-09-26 10:35       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-26 14:48         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-26 14:53           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-27 23:23             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-28 13:36               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-22 13:26   ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-22 19:49     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-23  0:53       ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-09-23 15:20         ` Fuad Tabba
2022-09-30 16:14   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-09-30 16:23     ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03  7:33       ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-03 11:01         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-10-04 15:39           ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-06  8:50   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-06 13:04     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-10-17 13:00   ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-10-17 16:19     ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-17 16:39       ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-10-17 21:56         ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-18 13:42           ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-10-19 15:32             ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-20 10:50               ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-10-21 13:54                 ` Chao Peng
2022-10-21 16:53                   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-10-19 12:23   ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-10-21 13:47     ` Chao Peng
2022-10-21 16:18       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-24 14:59         ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-24 15:26           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-11-03 16:27           ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-09-15 14:29 ` [PATCH v8 2/8] KVM: Extend the memslot to support fd-based private memory Chao Peng
2022-09-16  9:14   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-09-16  9:53     ` Chao Peng
2022-09-26 10:26   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-09-26 14:04     ` Chao Peng
2022-09-29 22:45   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-09-29 23:22     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-05 13:04   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-05 22:05     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-06  9:00   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-06 14:58   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-06 15:07     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-06 15:34       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-07 11:14         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-07 14:58           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-07 21:54             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-08 16:15               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-08 17:35                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-10  8:25                   ` Chao Peng
2022-10-12  8:14                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-09-15 14:29 ` [PATCH v8 3/8] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT exit Chao Peng
2022-09-16  9:17   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-09-16  9:54     ` Chao Peng
2022-09-15 14:29 ` [PATCH v8 4/8] KVM: Use gfn instead of hva for mmu_notifier_retry Chao Peng
2022-09-15 14:29 ` [PATCH v8 5/8] KVM: Register/unregister the guest private memory regions Chao Peng
2022-09-26 10:36   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-09-26 14:07     ` Chao Peng
2022-10-11  9:48   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-12  2:35     ` Chao Peng
2022-10-17 10:15       ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-17 22:17         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-19 13:23           ` Chao Peng
2022-10-19 15:02             ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-19 16:09               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-19 18:32                 ` Fuad Tabba
2022-09-15 14:29 ` [PATCH v8 6/8] KVM: Update lpage info when private/shared memory are mixed Chao Peng
2022-09-29 16:52   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-09-30  8:59     ` Chao Peng
2022-09-15 14:29 ` [PATCH v8 7/8] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory Chao Peng
2022-10-14 18:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-17 14:48     ` Chao Peng
2022-09-15 14:29 ` [PATCH v8 8/8] KVM: Enable and expose KVM_MEM_PRIVATE Chao Peng
2022-10-04 14:55   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-10  8:31     ` Chao Peng
2022-10-06  8:55   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-10  8:33     ` Chao Peng

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