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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Julien Thierry <julien.thierry.kdev@gmail.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ben Gardon <bgardon@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/18] KVM: Don't take mmu_lock for range invalidation unless necessary
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 16:41:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YGSmMeSOPcjxRwf6@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6e7dc7d0-f5dc-85d9-1c50-d23b761b5ff3@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 26/03/21 03:19, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Reset the lock used to prevent memslot updates between MMU notifier
> > +	 * range_start and range_end.  At this point no more MMU notifiers will
> > +	 * run, but the lock could still be held if KVM's notifier was removed
> > +	 * between range_start and range_end.  No threads can be waiting on the
> > +	 * lock as the last reference on KVM has been dropped.  If the lock is
> > +	 * still held, freeing memslots will deadlock.
> > +	 */
> > +	init_rwsem(&kvm->mmu_notifier_slots_lock);
> 
> I was going to say that this is nasty,

Heh, I still think it's nasty.

> then I noticed that
> mmu_notifier_unregister uses SRCU to ensure completion of concurrent calls
> to the MMU notifier.  So I guess it's fine, but it's better to point it out:
> 
> 	/*
> 	 * At this point no more MMU notifiers will run and pending
> 	 * calls to range_start have completed, but the lock would
> 	 * still be held and never released if the MMU notifier was
> 	 * removed between range_start and range_end.  Since the last
> 	 * reference to the struct kvm has been dropped, no threads can
> 	 * be waiting on the lock, but we might still end up taking it
> 	 * when freeing memslots in kvm_arch_destroy_vm.  Reset the lock
> 	 * to avoid deadlocks.
> 	 */
> 
> That said, the easiest way to avoid this would be to always update
> mmu_notifier_count.

Updating mmu_notifier_count requires taking mmu_lock, which would defeat the
purpose of these shenanigans.  I think it could be made atomic, since mmu_lock
would be taken before the elevated count _must_ be visible, but that would
break the mmu_notifier_range_{start,end} optimization that was recently added.

Or did I completely misunderstand what you're suggesting?

> I don't mind the rwsem, but at least I suggest that you
> split the patch in two---the first one keeping the mmu_notifier_count update
> unconditional, and the second one introducing the rwsem and the on_lock
> function kvm_inc_notifier_count.  Please document the new lock in
> Documentation/virt/kvm/locking.rst too.

Note, will update docs.

> Also, related to the first part of the series, perhaps you could structure
> the series in a slightly different way:
> 
> 1) introduce the HVA walking API in common code, complete with on_lock and
> patch 15, so that you can use on_lock to increase mmu_notifier_seq
> 
> 2) then migrate all architectures including x86 to the new API
> 
> IOW, first half of patch 10 and all of patch 15; then the second half of
> patch 10; then patches 11-14.
> 
> > +#if defined(CONFIG_MMU_NOTIFIER) && defined(KVM_ARCH_WANT_MMU_NOTIFIER)
> > +	down_write(&kvm->mmu_notifier_slots_lock);
> > +#endif
> >  	rcu_assign_pointer(kvm->memslots[as_id], slots);
> > +#if defined(CONFIG_MMU_NOTIFIER) && defined(KVM_ARCH_WANT_MMU_NOTIFIER)
> > +	up_write(&kvm->mmu_notifier_slots_lock);
> > +#endif
> 
> Please do this unconditionally, the cost is minimal if the rwsem is not
> contended (as is the case if the architecture doesn't use MMU notifiers at
> all).

It's not the cost, it's that mmu_notifier_slots_lock doesn't exist.  That's an
easily solved problem, but then the lock wouldn't be initialized since
kvm_init_mmu_notifier() is a nop.  That's again easy to solve, but IMO would
look rather weird.  I guess the counter argument is that __kvm_memslots()
wouldn't need #ifdeffery.

These are the to ideas I've come up with:

Option 1:
	static int kvm_init_mmu_notifier(struct kvm *kvm)
	{
		init_rwsem(&kvm->mmu_notifier_slots_lock);

	#if defined(CONFIG_MMU_NOTIFIER) && defined(KVM_ARCH_WANT_MMU_NOTIFIER)
		kvm->mmu_notifier.ops = &kvm_mmu_notifier_ops;
		return mmu_notifier_register(&kvm->mmu_notifier, current->mm);
	#else
		return 0;
	#endif
	}


Option 2:
	kvm_mmu_notifier_lock(kvm);
	rcu_assign_pointer(kvm->memslots[as_id], slots);
	kvm_mmu_notifier_unlock(kvm);





  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-31 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-26  2:19 [PATCH 00/18] KVM: Consolidate and optimize MMU notifiers Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 01/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Coalesce TDP MMU TLB flushes when zapping collapsible SPTEs Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 02/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Move flushing for "slot" handlers to caller for legacy MMU Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 03/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Coalesce TLB flushes when zapping collapsible SPTEs Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 04/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Coalesce TLB flushes across address spaces for gfn range zap Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 05/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Pass address space ID to __kvm_tdp_mmu_zap_gfn_range() Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 06/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Pass address space ID to TDP MMU root walkers Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 07/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Use leaf-only loop for walking TDP SPTEs when changing SPTE Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 08/18] KVM: Move prototypes for MMU notifier callbacks to generic code Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 09/18] KVM: Move arm64's MMU notifier trace events " Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 10/18] KVM: Move x86's MMU notifier memslot walkers " Sean Christopherson
2021-03-31  7:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-31 16:20     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-31 16:36       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 11/18] KVM: arm64: Convert to the gfn-based MMU notifier callbacks Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 12/18] KVM: MIPS/MMU: " Sean Christopherson
2021-03-31  7:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 13/18] KVM: PPC: " Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 14/18] KVM: Kill off the old hva-based " Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 15/18] KVM: Take mmu_lock when handling MMU notifier iff the hva hits a memslot Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 16/18] KVM: Don't take mmu_lock for range invalidation unless necessary Sean Christopherson
2021-03-31  7:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-31  8:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-31 16:41     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2021-03-31 16:47       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-31 19:47         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-31 20:42           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-31 21:05             ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-31 21:22               ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-31 21:36                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-31 21:35               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-31 21:47                 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-31 20:15     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-31 20:30       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-31 20:52     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-31 21:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 17/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Allow yielding during MMU notifier unmap/zap, if possible Sean Christopherson
2021-03-26  2:19 ` [PATCH 18/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Drop trace_kvm_age_page() tracepoint Sean Christopherson
2021-03-30 18:32 ` [PATCH 00/18] KVM: Consolidate and optimize MMU notifiers Ben Gardon
2021-03-30 19:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-30 19:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-31  7:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-31  9:34   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-31  9:41     ` Paolo Bonzini

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