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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Xie Yongji <xieyongji@bytedance.com>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com, sgarzare@redhat.com,
	parav@nvidia.com, hch@infradead.org,
	christian.brauner@canonical.com, rdunlap@infradead.org,
	willy@infradead.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, axboe@kernel.dk,
	bcrl@kvack.org, corbet@lwn.net, mika.penttila@nextfour.com,
	dan.carpenter@oracle.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 10/10] Documentation: Add documentation for VDUSE
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 15:14:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YHb44R4HyLEUVSTF@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210331080519.172-11-xieyongji@bytedance.com>

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On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 04:05:19PM +0800, Xie Yongji wrote:
> VDUSE (vDPA Device in Userspace) is a framework to support
> implementing software-emulated vDPA devices in userspace. This
> document is intended to clarify the VDUSE design and usage.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Xie Yongji <xieyongji@bytedance.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/userspace-api/index.rst |   1 +
>  Documentation/userspace-api/vduse.rst | 212 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  2 files changed, 213 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/userspace-api/vduse.rst

Just looking over the documentation briefly (I haven't studied the code
yet)...

> +How VDUSE works
> +------------
> +Each userspace vDPA device is created by the VDUSE_CREATE_DEV ioctl on
> +the character device (/dev/vduse/control). Then a device file with the
> +specified name (/dev/vduse/$NAME) will appear, which can be used to
> +implement the userspace vDPA device's control path and data path.

These steps are taken after sending the VDPA_CMD_DEV_NEW netlink
message? (Please consider reordering the documentation to make it clear
what the sequence of steps are.)

> +	static int netlink_add_vduse(const char *name, int device_id)
> +	{
> +		struct nl_sock *nlsock;
> +		struct nl_msg *msg;
> +		int famid;
> +
> +		nlsock = nl_socket_alloc();
> +		if (!nlsock)
> +			return -ENOMEM;
> +
> +		if (genl_connect(nlsock))
> +			goto free_sock;
> +
> +		famid = genl_ctrl_resolve(nlsock, VDPA_GENL_NAME);
> +		if (famid < 0)
> +			goto close_sock;
> +
> +		msg = nlmsg_alloc();
> +		if (!msg)
> +			goto close_sock;
> +
> +		if (!genlmsg_put(msg, NL_AUTO_PORT, NL_AUTO_SEQ, famid, 0, 0,
> +		    VDPA_CMD_DEV_NEW, 0))
> +			goto nla_put_failure;
> +
> +		NLA_PUT_STRING(msg, VDPA_ATTR_DEV_NAME, name);
> +		NLA_PUT_STRING(msg, VDPA_ATTR_MGMTDEV_DEV_NAME, "vduse");
> +		NLA_PUT_U32(msg, VDPA_ATTR_DEV_ID, device_id);

What are the permission/capability requirements for VDUSE?

How does VDUSE interact with namespaces?

What is the meaning of VDPA_ATTR_DEV_ID? I don't see it in Linux
v5.12-rc6 drivers/vdpa/vdpa.c:vdpa_nl_cmd_dev_add_set_doit().

> +MMU-based IOMMU Driver
> +----------------------
> +VDUSE framework implements an MMU-based on-chip IOMMU driver to support
> +mapping the kernel DMA buffer into the userspace iova region dynamically.
> +This is mainly designed for virtio-vdpa case (kernel virtio drivers).
> +
> +The basic idea behind this driver is treating MMU (VA->PA) as IOMMU (IOVA->PA).
> +The driver will set up MMU mapping instead of IOMMU mapping for the DMA transfer
> +so that the userspace process is able to use its virtual address to access
> +the DMA buffer in kernel.
> +
> +And to avoid security issue, a bounce-buffering mechanism is introduced to
> +prevent userspace accessing the original buffer directly which may contain other
> +kernel data. During the mapping, unmapping, the driver will copy the data from
> +the original buffer to the bounce buffer and back, depending on the direction of
> +the transfer. And the bounce-buffer addresses will be mapped into the user address
> +space instead of the original one.

Is mmap(2) the right interface if memory is not actually shared, why not
just use pread(2)/pwrite(2) to make the copy explicit? That way the copy
semantics are clear. For example, don't expect to be able to busy wait
on the memory because changes will not be visible to the other side.

(I guess I'm missing something here and that mmap(2) is the right
approach, but maybe this documentation section can be clarified.)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-14 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-31  8:05 [PATCH v6 00/10] Introduce VDUSE - vDPA Device in Userspace Xie Yongji
2021-03-31  8:05 ` [PATCH v6 01/10] file: Export receive_fd() to modules Xie Yongji
2021-03-31  9:15   ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-31  9:26     ` Dan Carpenter
2021-03-31  9:28       ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-31 11:32     ` Yongji Xie
2021-03-31 12:23       ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-31 13:59         ` Yongji Xie
2021-03-31 14:07           ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-31 14:37             ` Yongji Xie
2021-03-31  8:05 ` [PATCH v6 02/10] eventfd: Increase the recursion depth of eventfd_signal() Xie Yongji
2021-03-31  8:05 ` [PATCH v6 03/10] vhost-vdpa: protect concurrent access to vhost device iotlb Xie Yongji
2021-04-09 16:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-04-11  5:36     ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-11 20:48       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-04-12  2:29         ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-12  9:00           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-03-31  8:05 ` [PATCH v6 04/10] vhost-iotlb: Add an opaque pointer for vhost IOTLB Xie Yongji
2021-03-31  8:05 ` [PATCH v6 05/10] vdpa: Add an opaque pointer for vdpa_config_ops.dma_map() Xie Yongji
2021-03-31  8:05 ` [PATCH v6 06/10] vdpa: factor out vhost_vdpa_pa_map() and vhost_vdpa_pa_unmap() Xie Yongji
2021-03-31  8:05 ` [PATCH v6 07/10] vdpa: Support transferring virtual addressing during DMA mapping Xie Yongji
2021-04-08  2:36   ` Jason Wang
2021-03-31  8:05 ` [PATCH v6 08/10] vduse: Implement an MMU-based IOMMU driver Xie Yongji
2021-04-08  3:25   ` Jason Wang
2021-04-08  5:27     ` Yongji Xie
2021-03-31  8:05 ` [PATCH v6 09/10] vduse: Introduce VDUSE - vDPA Device in Userspace Xie Yongji
2021-04-08  6:57   ` Jason Wang
2021-04-08  9:36     ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-09  5:36       ` Jason Wang
2021-04-09  8:02         ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-12  7:16           ` Jason Wang
2021-04-12  8:02             ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-12  9:37               ` Jason Wang
2021-04-12  9:59                 ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-13  3:35                   ` Jason Wang
2021-04-13  4:28                     ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-14  8:18                       ` Jason Wang
2021-04-16  3:24   ` Jason Wang
2021-04-16  8:43     ` Yongji Xie
2021-03-31  8:05 ` [PATCH v6 10/10] Documentation: Add documentation for VDUSE Xie Yongji
2021-04-08  7:18   ` Jason Wang
2021-04-08  8:09     ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-14 14:14   ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2021-04-15  5:38     ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-15  7:19       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-04-15  8:33         ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-15 14:17           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-04-15  8:36         ` Jason Wang
2021-04-15  9:04           ` Jason Wang
2021-04-15 11:17             ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-16  2:20               ` Jason Wang
2021-04-16  2:58                 ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-16  3:02                   ` Jason Wang
2021-04-16  3:18                     ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-15 14:38           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-04-16  2:23             ` Jason Wang
2021-04-16  3:19               ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-16  5:39                 ` Jason Wang
2021-04-16  3:13             ` Yongji Xie
2021-04-14  7:34 ` [PATCH v6 00/10] Introduce VDUSE - vDPA Device in Userspace Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-04-14  7:49   ` Jason Wang
2021-04-14  7:54   ` Yongji Xie

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