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From: Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: brijesh.singh@amd.com, tglx@linutronix.de, bp@alien8.de,
	jroedel@suse.de, thomas.lendacky@amd.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, rientjes@google.com, seanjc@google.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, hpa@zytor.com, tony.luck@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 10/37] x86/fault: Add support to handle the RMP fault for kernel address
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 12:31:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b95703e1-a4ce-52a9-c08f-bcf6cc65c129@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e3e4331-2933-7ae6-31d9-5fb73fce4353@amd.com>


On 5/3/21 12:19 PM, Brijesh Singh wrote:
> On 5/3/21 11:15 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On 5/3/21 8:37 AM, Brijesh Singh wrote:
>>> GHCB was just an example. Another example is a vfio driver accessing the
>>> shared page. If those pages are not marked shared then kernel access
>>> will cause an RMP fault. Ideally we should not be running into this
>>> situation, but if we do, then I am trying to see how best we can avoid
>>> the host crashes.
>> I'm confused.  Are you suggesting that the VFIO driver could be passed

One small correction, I was meaning to say VIRTIO but typed VFIO. Sorry
for the confusion.


>> an address such that the host kernel would blindly try to write private
>> guest memory?
> Not blindly. But a guest could trick a VMM (qemu) to ask the host driver
> to access a GPA which is guest private page (Its a hypothetical case, so
> its possible that I may missing something). Let's see with an example:
>
> - A guest provides a GPA to VMM to write to (e.g DMA operation).
>
> - VMM translates the GPA->HVA and calls down to host kernel with the HVA.
>
> - The host kernel may pin the HVA to get the PFN for it and then kmap().
> Write to the mapped PFN will cause an RMP fault if the guest provided
> GPA was not a marked shared in the RMP table. In an ideal world, a guest
> should *never* do this but what if it does ?
>
>
>> The host kernel *knows* which memory is guest private and what is
>> shared.  It had to set it up in the first place.  It can also consult
>> the RMP at any time if it somehow forgot.
>>
>> So, this scenario seems to be that the host got a guest physical address
>> (gpa) from the guest, it did a gpa->hpa->hva conversion and then wrote
>> the page all without bothering to consult the RMP.  Shouldn't the the
>> gpa->hpa conversion point offer a perfect place to determine if the page
>> is shared or private?
> The GPA->HVA is typically done by the VMM, and HVA->HPA is done by the
> host drivers. So, only time we could verify is after the HVA->HPA. One
> of my patch provides a snp_lookup_page_in_rmptable() helper that can be
> used to query the page state in the RMP table. This means the all the
> host backend drivers need to enlightened to always read the RMP table
> before making a write access to guest provided GPA. A good guest should
> *never* be using a private page for the DMA operation and if it does
> then the fault handler introduced in this patch can avoid the host crash
> and eliminate the need to enlightened the drivers to check for the
> permission before the access.
>
> I felt it is good idea to have some kind of recovery specially when a
> malicious guest could lead us into this path.
>
>
>>> Another reason for having this is to catch  the hypervisor bug, during
>>> the SNP guest create, the KVM allocates few backing pages and sets the
>>> assigned bit for it (the examples are VMSA, and firmware context page).
>>> If hypervisor accidentally free's these pages without clearing the
>>> assigned bit in the RMP table then it will result in RMP fault and thus
>>> a kernel crash.
>> I think I'd be just fine with a BUG_ON() in those cases instead of an
>> attempt to paper over the issue.  Kernel crashes are fine in the case of
>> kernel bugs.
> Yes, fine with me.
>
>
>>>> Or, worst case, you could use exception tables and something like
>>>> copy_to_user() to write to the GHCB.  That way, the thread doing the
>>>> write can safely recover from the fault without the instruction actually
>>>> ever finishing execution.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I went looking through the spec.  I didn't see anything about the
>>>> guest being able to write the "Assigned" RMP bit.  Did I miss that?
>>>> Which of the above three conditions is triggered by the guest failing to
>>>> make the GHCB page shared?
>>> The GHCB spec section "Page State Change" provides an interface for the
>>> guest to request the page state change. During bootup, the guest uses
>>> the Page State Change VMGEXIT to request hypervisor to make the page
>>> shared. The hypervisor uses the RMPUPDATE instruction to write to
>>> "assigned" bit in the RMP table.
>> Right...  So the *HOST* is in control.  Why should the host ever be
>> surprised by a page transitioning from shared to private?
> I am trying is a cover a malicious guest cases. A good guest should
> follow the GHCB spec and change the page state before the access.
>
>>> On VMGEXIT, the very first thing which vmgexit handler does is to map
>>> the GHCB page for the access and then later using the copy_to_user() to
>>> sync the GHCB updates from hypervisor to guest. The copy_to_user() will
>>> cause a RMP fault if the GHCB is not mapped shared. As I explained
>>> above, GHCB page was just an example, vfio or other may also get into
>>> this situation.
>> Causing an RMP fault is fine.  The problem is shoving a whole bunch of
>> *recovery* code in the kernel when recovery isn't necessary.  Just look
>> for the -EFAULT from copy_to_user() and move on with life.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-03 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-30 12:37 [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 00/37] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 01/37] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle AP reset MSR protocol Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 02/37] KVM: SVM: Provide the Hypervisor Feature support VMGEXIT Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 03/37] KVM: SVM: Increase the GHCB protocol version Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 04/37] x86/cpufeatures: Add SEV-SNP CPU feature Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 05/37] x86/sev: Add the host SEV-SNP initialization support Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 06/37] x86/sev: Add RMP entry lookup helpers Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 07/37] x86/sev: Add helper functions for RMPUPDATE and PSMASH instruction Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 08/37] x86/sev: Split the physmap when adding the page in RMP table Brijesh Singh
2021-05-03 15:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-03 15:15   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 15:41     ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-07 11:28       ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 09/37] x86/traps: Define RMP violation #PF error code Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 10/37] x86/fault: Add support to handle the RMP fault for kernel address Brijesh Singh
2021-05-03 14:44   ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-03 15:03     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 15:49       ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-03 15:37     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-03 16:15       ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-03 17:19         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-03 17:31           ` Brijesh Singh [this message]
2021-05-03 17:40           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 19:41             ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-03 19:43               ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-04 12:31                 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-04 14:33                   ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-04 15:16                     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 11/37] x86/fault: Add support to handle the RMP fault for user address Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 12/37] crypto:ccp: Define the SEV-SNP commands Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 13/37] crypto: ccp: Add support to initialize the AMD-SP for SEV-SNP Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 14/37] crypto: ccp: Shutdown SNP firmware on kexec Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 15/37] crypto:ccp: Provide APIs to issue SEV-SNP commands Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 16/37] crypto: ccp: Handle the legacy TMR allocation when SNP is enabled Brijesh Singh
2021-05-10 18:23   ` Peter Gonda
2021-05-10 20:07     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 17/37] crypto: ccp: Handle the legacy SEV command " Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 18/37] KVM: SVM: make AVIC backing, VMSA and VMCB memory allocation SNP safe Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 19/37] KVM: SVM: Add initial SEV-SNP support Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 20/37] KVM: SVM: define new SEV_FEATURES field in the VMCB Save State Area Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 21/37] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SNP_INIT command Brijesh Singh
2021-05-06 20:25   ` Peter Gonda
2021-05-06 22:29     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 22/37] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_START command Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 23/37] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE command Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 24/37] KVM: SVM: Reclaim the guest pages when SEV-SNP VM terminates Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 25/37] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_FINISH command Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 26/37] KVM: X86: Add kvm_x86_ops to get the max page level for the TDP Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 27/37] KVM: X86: Introduce kvm_mmu_map_tdp_page() for use by SEV Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 28/37] KVM: X86: Introduce kvm_mmu_get_tdp_walk() for SEV-SNP use Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 29/37] KVM: X86: Define new RMP check related #NPF error bits Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 30/37] KVM: X86: update page-fault trace to log the 64-bit error code Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 31/37] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle GHCB GPA register VMGEXIT Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 32/37] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle MSR based Page State Change VMGEXIT Brijesh Singh
2021-05-10 17:30   ` Peter Gonda
2021-05-10 17:51     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-10 19:59       ` Peter Gonda
2021-05-10 20:50         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 33/37] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle " Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 34/37] KVM: X86: Export the kvm_zap_gfn_range() for the SNP use Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 35/37] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle the RMP nested page fault Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 36/37] KVM: SVM: Provide support for SNP_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event Brijesh Singh
2021-05-10 18:57   ` Peter Gonda
2021-05-10 20:14     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-10 21:17       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-11 18:34         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 37/37] KVM: SVM: Advertise the SEV-SNP feature support Brijesh Singh

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