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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: eperezma@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	lulu@redhat.com, eli@mellanox.com, lingshan.zhu@intel.com,
	rob.miller@broadcom.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
	sgarzare@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/21] Control VQ support in vDPA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 10:56:34 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c120d0ce-7d42-ab6e-1040-ab85985f7cbe@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201217163513-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>


On 2020/12/18 上午6:28, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 05:02:49PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>> On 2020/12/17 下午3:58, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 11:30:18AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> On 2020/12/16 下午5:47, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 02:47:57PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>>> Hi All:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This series tries to add the support for control virtqueue in vDPA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Control virtqueue is used by networking device for accepting various
>>>>>> commands from the driver. It's a must to support multiqueue and other
>>>>>> configurations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When used by vhost-vDPA bus driver for VM, the control virtqueue
>>>>>> should be shadowed via userspace VMM (Qemu) instead of being assigned
>>>>>> directly to Guest. This is because Qemu needs to know the device state
>>>>>> in order to start and stop device correctly (e.g for Live Migration).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This requies to isolate the memory mapping for control virtqueue
>>>>>> presented by vhost-vDPA to prevent guest from accesing it directly.
>>>>>> To achieve this, vDPA introduce two new abstractions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - address space: identified through address space id (ASID) and a set
>>>>>>                     of memory mapping in maintained
>>>>>> - virtqueue group: the minimal set of virtqueues that must share an
>>>>>>                     address space
>>>>> How will this support the pretty common case where control vq
>>>>> is programmed by the kernel through the PF, and others by the VFs?
>>>> In this case, the VF parent need to provide a software control vq and decode
>>>> the command then send them to VF.
>>> But how does that tie to the address space infrastructure?
>> In this case, address space is not a must.
> That's ok, problem is I don't see how address space is going
> to work in this case at all.
>
> There's no address space there that userspace/guest can control.
>

The virtqueue group is mandated by parent but the association between 
virtqueue group and address space is under the control of userspace (Qemu).

A simple but common case is that:

1) Device advertise two virtqueue groups: group 0 contains RX and TX, 
group 1 contains CVQ.
2) Device advertise two address spaces

Then, for vhost-vDPA using by VM:

1) associate group 0 with as 0, group 1 with as 1 (via vhost-vDPA 
VHOST_VDPA_SET_GROUP_ASID)
2) Publish guest memory mapping via IOTLB asid 0
3) Publish control virtqueue mapping via IOTLB asid 1

Then the DMA is totally isolated in this case.

For vhost-vDPA using by DPDK or virtio-vDPA

1) associate group 0 and group 1 with as 0

since we don't need DMA isolation in this case.

In order to let it be controlled by Guest, we need extend virtio spec to 
support those concepts.

Thanks



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-18  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-16  6:47 [PATCH 00/21] Control VQ support in vDPA Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:47 ` [PATCH 01/21] vhost: move the backend feature bits to vhost_types.h Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:47 ` [PATCH 02/21] virtio-vdpa: don't set callback if virtio doesn't need it Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 03/21] vhost-vdpa: passing iotlb to IOMMU mapping helpers Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 04/21] vhost-vdpa: switch to use vhost-vdpa specific IOTLB Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 05/21] vdpa: add the missing comment for nvqs in struct vdpa_device Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 06/21] vdpa: introduce virtqueue groups Jason Wang
2021-01-04 10:04   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-01-05  4:13     ` Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 07/21] vdpa: multiple address spaces support Jason Wang
2020-12-29  7:28   ` Eli Cohen
2020-12-30  4:00     ` Jason Wang
2020-12-30  4:04     ` Jason Wang
2020-12-30  9:44       ` Eli Cohen
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 08/21] vdpa: introduce config operations for associating ASID to a virtqueue group Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 09/21] vhost_iotlb: split out IOTLB initialization Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 10/21] vhost: support ASID in IOTLB API Jason Wang
2020-12-29 10:20   ` Eli Cohen
2020-12-30  4:27     ` Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 11/21] vhost-vdpa: introduce asid based IOTLB Jason Wang
2020-12-29 11:41   ` Eli Cohen
2020-12-30  6:23     ` Jason Wang
2020-12-29 11:53   ` Eli Cohen
2020-12-30  6:34     ` Jason Wang
2020-12-29 12:05   ` Eli Cohen
2020-12-30  6:33     ` Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 12/21] vhost-vdpa: introduce uAPI to get the number of virtqueue groups Jason Wang
2020-12-29 12:24   ` Eli Cohen
2020-12-30  6:49     ` Jason Wang
2020-12-30 10:05   ` Eli Cohen
2020-12-31  2:36     ` Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 13/21] vhost-vdpa: introduce uAPI to get the number of address spaces Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 14/21] vhost-vdpa: uAPI to get virtqueue group id Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 15/21] vhost-vdpa: introduce uAPI to set group ASID Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 16/21] vhost-vdpa: support ASID based IOTLB API Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 17/21] vdpa_sim: split vdpasim_virtqueue's iov field in out_iov and in_iov Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 18/21] vdpa_sim: advertise VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 19/21] vdpa_sim: factor out buffer completion logic Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 20/21] vdpa_sim: filter destination mac address Jason Wang
2020-12-16  6:48 ` [PATCH 21/21] vdpasim: control virtqueue support Jason Wang
2020-12-17 20:19   ` kernel test robot
2021-01-11 12:26   ` Eli Cohen
2021-01-12  3:11     ` Jason Wang
2021-01-22 19:43       ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-01-25  3:16         ` Jason Wang
2020-12-16  9:47 ` [PATCH 00/21] Control VQ support in vDPA Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-17  3:30   ` Jason Wang
2020-12-17  7:58     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-17  9:02       ` Jason Wang
2020-12-17 22:28         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-18  2:56           ` Jason Wang [this message]
2020-12-17  7:26 ` Eli Cohen
2022-02-24 21:22 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] " Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/19] vhost: move the backend feature bits to vhost_types.h Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/19] virtio-vdpa: don't set callback if virtio doesn't need it Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/19] vhost-vdpa: passing iotlb to IOMMU mapping helpers Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/19] vhost-vdpa: switch to use vhost-vdpa specific IOTLB Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/19] vdpa: introduce virtqueue groups Gautam Dawar
2022-02-28  8:07     ` Jason Wang
2022-02-28 10:57       ` Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/19] vdpa: multiple address spaces support Gautam Dawar
2022-03-03 19:39     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2022-03-04  6:30       ` Gautam Dawar
2022-03-04 17:45         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/19] vdpa: introduce config operations for associating ASID to a virtqueue group Gautam Dawar
2022-03-04  9:54     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2022-03-04 17:48       ` Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/19] vhost_iotlb: split out IOTLB initialization Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/19] vhost: support ASID in IOTLB API Gautam Dawar
2022-03-04 10:25     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2022-03-04 17:52       ` Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/19] vhost-vdpa: introduce asid based IOTLB Gautam Dawar
2022-03-04 17:56     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2022-03-07 10:07       ` Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/19] vhost-vdpa: introduce uAPI to get the number of virtqueue groups Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/19] vhost-vdpa: introduce uAPI to get the number of address spaces Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/19] vhost-vdpa: uAPI to get virtqueue group id Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/19] vhost-vdpa: introduce uAPI to set group ASID Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/19] vhost-vdpa: support ASID based IOTLB API Gautam Dawar
2022-03-04 18:04     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2022-03-07 10:23       ` Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/19] vdpa_sim: advertise VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU Gautam Dawar
2022-03-10 17:55     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/19] vdpa_sim: factor out buffer completion logic Gautam Dawar
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/19] vdpa_sim: filter destination mac address Gautam Dawar
2022-03-10 18:22     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2022-02-24 21:22   ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/19] vdpasim: control virtqueue support Gautam Dawar
2022-03-10 18:20     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2022-03-18  7:35     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2022-03-22  8:46       ` Gautam Dawar
2022-02-28  8:17   ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] Control VQ support in vDPA Jason Wang
2022-02-28 10:56     ` Gautam Dawar

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