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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Jing Liu <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jing2.liu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/7] kvm: x86: Introduce XFD MSRs as passthrough to guest
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 10:50:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6e7328d-335f-b244-48d7-4ffe8b04fb05@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YKwd5OTXr97Fxfok@google.com>

On 5/24/21 2:43 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 07, 2021, Jing Liu wrote:
>> Passthrough both MSRs to let guest access and write without vmexit.
> Why?  Except for read-only MSRs, e.g. MSR_CORE_C1_RES, passthrough MSRs are
> costly to support because KVM must context switch the MSR (which, by the by, is
> completely missing from the patch).
> 
> In other words, if these MSRs are full RW passthrough, guests with XFD enabled
> will need to load the guest value on entry, save the guest value on exit, and
> load the host value on exit.  That's in the neighborhood of a 40% increase in
> latency for a single VM-Enter/VM-Exit roundtrip (~1500 cycles => >2000 cycles).

I'm not taking a position as to whether these _should_ be passthrough or
not.  But, if they are, I don't think you strictly need to do the
RDMSR/WRMSR at VM-Exit time.

Just like the "FPU", XFD isn't be used in normal kernel code.  This is
why we can be lazy about FPU state with TIF_NEED_FPU_LOAD.  I _suspect_
that some XFD manipulation can be at least deferred to the same place
where the FPU state is manipulated: places like switch_fpu_return() or
kernel_fpu_begin().

Doing that would at least help the fast VM-Exit/VM-Enter paths that
really like TIF_NEED_FPU_LOAD today.

I guess the nasty part is that you actually need to stash the old XFD
MSR value in the vcpu structure and that's not available at
context-switch time.  So, maybe this would only allow deferring the
WRMSR.  That's better than nothing I guess.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-23 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-07 15:42 [PATCH RFC 0/7] Introduce support for guest AMX feature Jing Liu
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 1/7] kvm: x86: Expose XFD CPUID to guest Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:34   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-06-07  3:27     ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 2/7] kvm: x86: Introduce XFD MSRs as passthrough " Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:43   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-24 21:57     ` Jim Mattson
2021-06-02  3:12     ` Liu, Jing2
2021-06-23 17:50     ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2021-06-28  2:00       ` Liu, Jing2
2021-06-29 17:58         ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-06  7:33           ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 3/7] kvm: x86: XSAVE state and XFD MSRs context switch Jing Liu
2021-02-07 11:49   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-02-08  3:35     ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-08 10:25   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-08 17:31     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-08 17:45       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-08 18:04         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-08 18:12           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-08 18:55             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-22  8:51               ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-22  8:36             ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 4/7] kvm: x86: Add new ioctls for XSAVE extension Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:50   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-26  6:09     ` Liu, Jing2
2021-05-26 14:43       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-06-01 10:24         ` Liu, Jing2
2021-06-07  5:23           ` Liu, Jing2
2021-05-24 22:06   ` Jim Mattson
2021-05-26  6:11     ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 5/7] kvm: x86: Revise CPUID.D.1.EBX for alignment rule Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:28   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-06-03  4:45     ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 6/7] kvm: x86: Add AMX_TILE, AMX_INT8 and AMX_BF16 support Jing Liu
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 7/7] kvm: x86: AMX XCR0 support for guest Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:53   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-26  7:54     ` Liu, Jing2
2021-05-26 14:54       ` Sean Christopherson

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