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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 15:57:29 +0800
Message-ID: <ef3ca685-2cbe-ce7c-c9c0-cbb5caa08db2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM0PR0502MB3795940D8E0A269D4A32FF8FC30D0@AM0PR0502MB3795.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>


On 2020/1/21 下午2:01, Shahaf Shuler wrote:
> Tuesday, January 21, 2020 12:00 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin:
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 09:47:18PM +0000, Shahaf Shuler wrote:
>>> Monday, January 20, 2020 11:25 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin:
>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 08:51:43PM +0000, Shahaf Shuler wrote:
>>>>> Monday, January 20, 2020 7:50 PM, Jason Gunthorpe:
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 04:43:53PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>>>> This is similar to the design of platform IOMMU part of
>>>>>>> vhost-vdpa. We decide to send diffs to platform IOMMU there.
>>>>>>> If it's ok to do that in driver, we can replace set_map with
>>>>>>> incremental API
>>>> like map()/unmap().
>>>>>>> Then driver need to maintain rbtree itself.
>>>>>> I think we really need to see two modes, one where there is a
>>>>>> fixed translation without dynamic vIOMMU driven changes and one
>>>>>> that supports vIOMMU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are different optimization goals in the drivers for these
>>>>>> two configurations.
>>>>> +1.
>>>>> It will be best to have one API for static config (i.e. mapping
>>>>> can be set only before virtio device gets active), and one API for
>>>>> dynamic changes that can be set after the virtio device is active.
>>>> Frankly I don't see when we'd use the static one.
>>>> Memory hotplug is enabled for most guests...
>>> The fact memory hotplug is enabled doesn't necessarily means there is not
>> cold-plugged memory on the hot plugged slots.
>>> So your claim is majority of guests are deployed w/o any cold-plugged
>> memory?
>>
>> Sorry for not being clear. I was merely saying that dynamic one can't be
>> optional, and static one can. So how about we start just with the dynamic
>> one, then add the static one as a later optimization?
> Since we have the use case (cold plugged memory to guest, e.g. when populated w/ hugepages) I think we should start w/ both. The static one can be optional for drivers.
>
> Moreover am not yet clear about the suggested API for dynamic, can you share the prototype you have in mind?
> Also will it be :
> 1. multiple add_map and then flag the driver to set
> Or
> 2. each add_map should be set by the driver as stand alone.


For dynamic one, it looks to me that introducing add_map()/del_map() bus 
operations is much more cleaner than reusing current set_map() one.

Thanks


>


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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-16 12:42 [PATCH 0/5] vDPA support Jason Wang
2020-01-16 12:42 ` [PATCH 1/5] vhost: factor out IOTLB Jason Wang
2020-01-17  4:14   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-01-17  9:34     ` Jason Wang
2020-01-18  0:01   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-18  0:40   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-16 12:42 ` [PATCH 2/5] vringh: IOTLB support Jason Wang
2020-01-17 21:54   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-17 22:33   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-16 12:42 ` [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus Jason Wang
2020-01-16 15:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-17  3:03     ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17 13:54       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-20  7:50         ` Jason Wang
2020-01-20 12:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-20 17:50           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-20 21:56             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21 14:12               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-21 14:15                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21 14:16                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-21  8:40       ` Tian, Kevin
2020-01-21  9:41         ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17  4:16   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-01-17  9:34     ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17 12:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-17 13:52     ` Jason Wang
     [not found]       ` <CAJPjb1+fG9L3=iKbV4Vn13VwaeDZZdcfBPvarogF_Nzhk+FnKg@mail.gmail.com>
2020-01-19  9:07         ` Shahaf Shuler
2020-01-19  9:59           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-20  8:44             ` Jason Wang
2020-01-20 12:09               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21  3:32                 ` Jason Wang
2020-01-20  8:43           ` Jason Wang
2020-01-20 17:49             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-20 20:51               ` Shahaf Shuler
2020-01-20 21:25                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-20 21:47                   ` Shahaf Shuler
2020-01-20 21:59                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21  6:01                       ` Shahaf Shuler
2020-01-21  7:57                         ` Jason Wang [this message]
2020-01-21 14:07                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-21 14:16                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-20 21:48               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21  4:00               ` Jason Wang
2020-01-21  5:47                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21  8:00                   ` Jason Wang
2020-01-21  8:15                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21  8:35                       ` Jason Wang
2020-01-21 11:09                         ` Shahaf Shuler
2020-01-22  6:36                           ` Jason Wang
2020-01-21 14:05                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-21 14:17                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-22  6:18                           ` Jason Wang
2020-01-20  8:19         ` Jason Wang
2020-01-16 12:42 ` [PATCH 4/5] virtio: introduce a vDPA based transport Jason Wang
2020-01-16 15:38   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-17  9:32     ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17 14:00       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-20  7:52         ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17  4:10   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-01-16 12:42 ` [PATCH 5/5] vdpasim: vDPA device simulator Jason Wang
2020-01-16 15:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-17  9:32     ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17 14:10       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-20  8:01         ` Jason Wang
2020-02-04  4:19         ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17  4:12   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-01-17  9:35     ` Jason Wang
2020-01-18 18:18   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-28  3:32   ` Dan Carpenter
2020-02-04  4:07     ` Jason Wang
2020-02-04  8:21   ` Zhu Lingshan
2020-02-04  8:28     ` Jason Wang
2020-02-04 12:52       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-05  3:14         ` Jason Wang
2020-01-21  8:44 ` [PATCH 0/5] vDPA support Tian, Kevin
2020-01-21  9:39   ` Jason Wang

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