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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Murray <andrew.murray@arm.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	will@kernel.org, Sudeep Holla <Sudeep.Holla@arm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 09/18] arm64: KVM: enable conditional save/restore full SPE profiling buffer controls
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 11:17:16 +0000
Message-ID: <fc222fef381f4ada37966db0a1ec314a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200107151328.GW42593@e119886-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 2020-01-07 15:13, Andrew Murray wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 02:13:25PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 14:30:16 +0000
>> Andrew Murray <andrew.murray@arm.com> wrote:
>> 
>> [somehow managed not to do a reply all, re-sending]
>> 
>> > From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
>> >
>> > Now that we can save/restore the full SPE controls, we can enable it
>> > if SPE is setup and ready to use in KVM. It's supported in KVM only if
>> > all the CPUs in the system supports SPE.
>> >
>> > However to support heterogenous systems, we need to move the check if
>> > host supports SPE and do a partial save/restore.
>> 
>> No. Let's just not go down that path. For now, KVM on heterogeneous
>> systems do not get SPE.
> 
> At present these patches only offer the SPE feature to VCPU's where the
> sanitised AA64DFR0 register indicates that all CPUs have this support
> (kvm_arm_support_spe_v1) at the time of setting the attribute
> (KVM_SET_DEVICE_ATTR).
> 
> Therefore if a new CPU comes online without SPE support, and an
> existing VCPU is scheduled onto it, then bad things happen - which I 
> guess
> must have been the intention behind this patch.

I guess that was the intent.

>> If SPE has been enabled on a guest and a CPU
>> comes up without SPE, this CPU should fail to boot (same as exposing a
>> feature to userspace).
> 
> I'm unclear as how to prevent this. We can set the FTR_STRICT flag on
> the sanitised register - thus tainting the kernel if such a non-SPE CPU
> comes online - thought that doesn't prevent KVM from blowing up. Though
> I don't believe we can prevent a CPU coming up. At the moment this is
> my preferred approach.

I'd be OK with this as a stop-gap measure. Do we know of any existing
design where only half of the CPUs have SPE?

> Looking at the vcpu_load and related code, I don't see a way of saying
> 'don't schedule this VCPU on this CPU' or bailing in any way.

That would actually be pretty easy to implement. In vcpu_load(), check
that that the CPU physical has SPE. If not, raise a request for that 
vcpu.
In the run loop, check for that request and abort if raised, returning
to userspace.

Userspace can always check /sys/devices/arm_spe_0/cpumask and work out
where to run that particular vcpu.

> 
> One solution could be to allow scheduling onto non-SPE VCPUs but wrap 
> the
> SPE save/restore code in a macro (much like kvm_arm_spe_v1_ready) that
> reads the non-sanitised feature register. Therefore we don't go bang, 
> but
> we also increase the size of any black-holes in SPE capturing. Though 
> this
> feels like something that will cause grief down the line.
> 
> Is there something else that can be done?

How does userspace deal with this? When SPE is only available on half of
the CPUs, how does perf work in these conditions?

Thanks,

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

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Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-20 14:30 [PATCH v2 00/18] arm64: KVM: add SPE profiling support Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] dt-bindings: ARM SPE: highlight the need for PPI partitions on heterogeneous systems Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] arm64: KVM: reset E2PB correctly in MDCR_EL2 when exiting the guest(VHE) Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 13:12   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 10:29     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-02 16:21       ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] arm64: KVM: define SPE data structure for each vcpu Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 13:19   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 12:01     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] arm64: KVM: add SPE system registers to sys_reg_descs Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] arm64: KVM/VHE: enable the use PMSCR_EL12 on VHE systems Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] arm64: KVM: split debug save restore across vm/traps activation Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] arm64: KVM/debug: drop pmscr_el1 and use sys_regs[PMSCR_EL1] in kvm_cpu_context Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] arm64: KVM: add support to save/restore SPE profiling buffer controls Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 13:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 10:49     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 15:17       ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 15:48         ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] arm64: KVM: enable conditional save/restore full " Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 18:06   ` Mark Rutland
2019-12-24 12:15     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 14:13   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-07 15:13     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-08 11:17       ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2020-01-08 11:58         ` Will Deacon
2020-01-08 12:36           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-08 13:10             ` Will Deacon
2020-01-09 11:23               ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-09 11:25                 ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-09 12:01                   ` Will Deacon
2020-01-10 10:54     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-10 11:04       ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-10 11:51         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-10 12:12           ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-10 11:18       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-10 12:12         ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-10 13:34           ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] arm64: KVM/debug: use EL1&0 stage 1 translation regime Andrew Murray
2019-12-22 10:34   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 11:11     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-13 16:31     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-15 14:03       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] KVM: arm64: don't trap Statistical Profiling controls to EL2 Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 18:08   ` Mark Rutland
2019-12-22 10:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-23 11:56     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-23 12:05       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-23 12:10         ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-09 17:25           ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-09 17:42             ` Mark Rutland
2020-01-09 17:46               ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] KVM: arm64: add a new vcpu device control group for SPEv1 Andrew Murray
2019-12-22 11:03   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 12:30     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] perf: arm_spe: Add KVM structure for obtaining IRQ info Andrew Murray
2019-12-22 11:24   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 12:35     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] KVM: arm64: spe: Provide guest virtual interrupts for SPE Andrew Murray
2019-12-22 12:07   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 11:50     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 12:42       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 13:08         ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 13:22           ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 13:36             ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 13:46               ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] perf: arm_spe: Handle guest/host exclusion flags Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 18:10   ` Mark Rutland
2019-12-22 12:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-23 12:10     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-23 12:18       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] KVM: arm64: enable SPE support Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 17/18, KVMTOOL] update_headers: Sync kvm UAPI headers with linux v5.5-rc2 Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 18/18, KVMTOOL] kvm: add a vcpu feature for SPEv1 support Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] arm64: KVM: add SPE profiling support Mark Rutland
2019-12-24 12:54   ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 10:48 ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-22 12:22   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 12:56     ` Andrew Murray

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