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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 22:24:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200607202414.GB13138@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200605173335.13753-1-andrzej.p@collabora.com>

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On Fri 2020-06-05 19:33:28, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> Userspace might want to implement a policy to temporarily disregard input
> from certain devices.

Wow, you certainly cc a lot of lists.

> An example use case is a convertible laptop, whose keyboard can be folded
> under the screen to create tablet-like experience. The user then must hold
> the laptop in such a way that it is difficult to avoid pressing the keyboard
> keys. It is therefore desirable to temporarily disregard input from the
> keyboard, until it is folded back. This obviously is a policy which should
> be kept out of the kernel, but the kernel must provide suitable means to
> implement such a policy.
> 
> Due to interactions with suspend/resume, a helper has been added for drivers
> to decide if the device is being used or not (PATCH 1/7) and it has been
> applied to relevant drivers (PATCH 2,4,5,6/7).

But is that a right way to implement it?

We want this for cellphones, too -- touchscreen should be disabled
while the device is locked in the pocket -- but we really want the
touchscreen hardware to be powered down in that case (because it keeps
SoC busy and eats a _lot_ of electricity).

But simplistic "receive an event and then drop it if device is
inhibited" does not allow that...

Best regards,
								Pavel
								
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-07 20:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200506002746.GB89269@dtor-ws>
2020-05-15 16:49 ` [PATCHv2 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 16:51   ` [PATCHv2 1/7] Input: add input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 16:52   ` [PATCHv2 6/7] Input: Add "inhibited" property Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 16:53   ` [PATCHv2 3/7] ACPI: button: Use input_device_enabled() helper Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-18 12:40     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-15 18:19   ` [PATCHv2 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Hans de Goede
2020-05-17 22:55     ` Peter Hutterer
2020-05-18  2:40       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-05-18  7:36         ` Hans de Goede
2020-05-22 15:35         ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-27  6:13           ` Peter Hutterer
2020-05-18 10:48     ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-18 12:24       ` Hans de Goede
2020-05-18 13:49         ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-18 14:23           ` Hans de Goede
2020-05-19  9:02             ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-19  9:36               ` Hans de Goede
2020-05-27  6:34                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-02 16:56                   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-02 17:52                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-02 18:50                       ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-02 20:19                         ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-03 13:07                           ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-03 17:38                             ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-03 17:54                               ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-03 19:37                                 ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-04  7:28                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-05 17:33                                     ` [PATCH v3 " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 1/7] Input: add input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 2/7] Input: use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 3/7] ACPI: button: Access input device's users under appropriate mutex Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 4/7] ACPI: button: Use input_device_enabled() helper Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 5/7] iio: adc: exynos: Use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 19:49                                         ` Michał Mirosław
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 6/7] platform/x86: thinkpad_acpi: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 7/7] Input: Add "inhibited" property Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:41                                         ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-08 11:22                                           ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 1/7] Input: add input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-03  6:25                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 2/7] Input: use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-03  6:26                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                                               ` <CGME20201207133237eucas1p26f8484944760a14e51dc7353ed33cd28@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2020-12-07 13:32                                                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-12-07 15:50                                                   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-08 10:05                                                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-12-09  6:37                                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-11  7:09                                                         ` [PATCH] Input: cyapa - do not call input_device_enabled from power mode handler Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-11  8:22                                                           ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-12-11  8:31                                                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 3/7] ACPI: button: Access input device's users under appropriate mutex Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-24 15:00                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-25  5:23                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-25 10:55                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-05  5:08                                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 4/7] ACPI: button: Use input_device_enabled() helper Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-25  5:24                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-10-05  5:06                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 5/7] iio: adc: exynos: Use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-10  1:28                                               ` Michał Mirosław
2020-06-10  7:52                                                 ` [FIXED PATCH " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 6/7] platform/x86: thinkpad_acpi: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 7/7] Input: Add "inhibited" property Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-10-05 18:10                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-10-06 13:04                                                 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-10-07  1:11                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-10-07  1:12                                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-03  6:26                                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-10  9:49                                             ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Hans de Goede
2020-06-10 10:38                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-10 13:12                                                 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-10 13:21                                                   ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-10 13:41                                                     ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-12  8:30                                                       ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-12  8:47                                                         ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-16 17:29                                                         ` [PATCH] Input: document inhibiting Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-16 17:38                                                           ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-17  7:44                                                           ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-17 10:18                                                             ` [PATCH v2] " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-17 10:21                                                               ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-17 16:52                                                               ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-23 13:35                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2020-12-03  6:27                                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-10 14:01                                                     ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-10 13:52                                                 ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-10 18:28                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-12  8:14                                                   ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-12  8:17                                             ` Hans de Goede
2020-08-03 14:40                                               ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-07 20:24                                       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2020-06-08  5:37                                         ` [PATCH v3 " Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08  9:28                                           ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz

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