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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] ACPI / scan: Acquire device_hotplug_lock in acpi_scan_init()
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 10:36:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38d76051-504e-c81a-293a-0b0839e829d3@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190726083117.GJ6142@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 26.07.19 10:31, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 26-07-19 10:05:58, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 26.07.19 09:57, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Thu 25-07-19 22:49:36, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 25.07.19 21:19, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> We need to rationalize the locking here, not to add more hacks.
>>>>
>>>> No, sorry. The real hack is calling a function that is *documented* to
>>>> be called under lock without it. That is an optimization for a special
>>>> case. That is the black magic in the code.
>>>
>>> OK, let me ask differently. What does the device_hotplug_lock actually
>>> protects from in the add_memory path? (Which data structures)
>>>
>>> This function is meant to be used when struct pages and node/zone data
>>> structures should be updated. Why should we even care about some device
>>> concept here? This should all be handled a layer up. Not all memory will
>>> have user space API to control online/offline state.
>>
>> Via add_memory()/__add_memory() we create memory block devices for all
>> memory. So all memory we create via this function (IOW, hotplug) will
>> have user space APIs.
> 
> Ups, I have mixed add_memory with add_pages which I've had in mind while
> writing that. Sorry about the confusion.

No worries :)

> 
> Anyway, my dislike of the device_hotplug_lock persists. I would really
> love to see it go rather than grow even more to the hotplug code. We
> should be really striving for mem hotplug internal and ideally range
> defined locking longterm. 

Yes, and that is a different story, because it will require major
changes to all add_memory() users. (esp, due to the documented race
conditions). Having that said, memory hotplug locking is not ideal yet.

-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-26  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-24 14:30 [PATCH v1] ACPI / scan: Acquire device_hotplug_lock in acpi_scan_init() David Hildenbrand
2019-07-25  9:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25  9:18 ` Oscar Salvador
2019-07-25  9:22   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25  9:23     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-25 12:56 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-25 13:05   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-25 13:57     ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-25 14:35       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-25 19:19         ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-25 20:49           ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-25 21:23             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-26  7:20               ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-26  7:57             ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-26  8:05               ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-26  8:31                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-26  8:36                   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2019-07-26  8:44                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-26  8:57                       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-26 10:31                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-26 10:37                           ` David Hildenbrand

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