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To: Peter Zijlstra , Jonathan Cameron Cc: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, Len Brown , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Sudeep Holla , guohanjun@huawei.com, Will Deacon , linuxarm@huawei.com, valentin.schneider@arm.com References: <20201016152702.1513592-1-Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com> <20201019103522.GK2628@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20201019123226.00006705@Huawei.com> <20201019125053.GM2628@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> From: Brice Goglin Autocrypt: addr=Brice.Goglin@inria.fr; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFNg91oBEADMfOyfz9iilNPe1Yy3pheXLf5O/Vpr+gFJoXcjA80bMeSWBf4on8Mt5Fg/ jpVuNBhii0Zyq4Lip1I2ve+WQjfL3ixYQqvNRLgfw/FL0gNHSOe9dVFo0ol0lT+vu3AXOVmh AM4IrsOp2Tmt+w89Oyvu+xwHW54CJX3kXp4c7COz79A6OhbMEPQUreerTavSvYpH5pLY55WX qOSdjmlXD45yobQbMg9rFBy1BECrj4DJSpym/zJMFVnyC5yAq2RdPFRyvYfS0c491adD/iw9 eFZY1XWj+WqLSW8zEejdl78npWOucfin7eAKvov5Bqa1MLGS/2ojVMHXJN0qpStpKcueV5Px igX8i4O4pPT10xCXZ7R6KIGUe1FE0N7MLErLvBF6AjMyiFHix9rBG0pWADgCQUUFjc8YBKng nwIKl39uSpk5W5rXbZ9nF3Gp/uigTBNVvaLO4PIDw9J3svHQwCB31COsUWS1QhoLMIQPdUkk GarScanm8i37Ut9G+nB4nLeDRYpPIVBFXFD/DROIEfLqOXNbGwOjDd5RWuzA0TNzJSeOkH/0 qYr3gywjiE81zALO3UeDj8TaPAv3Dmu7SoI86Bl7qm6UOnSL7KQxZWuMTlU3BF3d+0Ly0qxv k1XRPrL58IyoHIgAVom0uUnLkRKHczdhGDpNzsQDJaO71EPp8QARAQABtCRCcmljZSBHb2ds aW4gPEJyaWNlLkdvZ2xpbkBpbnJpYS5mcj6JAjgEEwECACIFAlNg+aMCGwMGCwkIBwMCBhUI AgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEESRkPMjWr076RoQAJhJ1q5+wlHIf+YvM0N1V1hQyf+aL35+ BPqxlyw4H65eMWIN/63yWhcxrLwNCdgY1WDWGoiW8KVCCHwJAmrXukFvXjsvShLQJavWRgKH eea12T9XtLc6qY/DEi2/rZvjOCKsMjnc1CYW71jbofaQP6lJsmC+RPWrnL/kjZyVrVrg7/Jo GemLmi/Ny7nLAOt6uL0MC/Mwld14Yud57Qz6VTDGSOvpNacbkJtcCwL3KZDBfSDnZtSbeclY srXoMnFXEJJjKJ6kcJrZDYPrNPkgFpSId/WKJ5pZBoRsKH/w2OdxwtXKCYHksMCiI4+4fVFD WlmVNYzW8ZKXjAstLh+xGABkLVXs+0WjvC67iTZBXTmbYJ5eodv8U0dCIR/dxjK9wxVKbIr2 D+UVbGlfqUuh1zzL68YsOg3L0Xc6TQglKVl6RxX87fCU8ycIs9pMbXeRDoJohflo8NUDpljm zqGlZxBjvb40p37ReJ+VfjWqAvVh+6JLaMpeva/2K1Nvr9O/DOkSRNetrd86PslrIwz8yP4l FaeG0dUwdRdnToNz6E8lbTVOwximW+nwEqOZUs1pQNKDejruN7Xnorr7wVBfp6zZmFCcmlw9 8pSMV3p85wg6nqJnBkQNTzlljycBvZLVvqc6hPOSXpXf5tjkuUVWgtbCc8TDEQFx8Phkgda6 K1LNuQINBFNg91oBEADp3vwjw8tQBnNfYJNJMs6AXC8PXB5uApT1pJ0fioaXvifPNL6gzsGt AF53aLeqB7UXuByHr8Bmsz7BvwA06XfXXdyLQP+8Oz3ZnUpw5inDIzLpRbUuAjI+IjUtguIK AkU1rZNdCXMOqEwCaomRitwaiX9H7yiDTKCUaqx8yAuAQWactWDdyFii2FA7IwVlD/GBqMWV weZsMfeWgPumKB3jyElm1RpkzULrtKbu7MToMH2fmWqBtTkRptABkY7VEd8qENKJBZKJGisk Fk6ylp8VzZdwbAtEDDTGK00Vg4PZGiIGbQo8mBqbc63DY+MdyUEksTTu2gTcqZMm/unQUJA8 xB4JrTAyljo/peIt6lsQa4+/eVolfKL1t1C3DY8f4wMoqnZORagnWA2oHsLsYKvcnqzA0QtY IIb1S1YatV+MNMFf3HuN7xr/jWlfdt59quXiOHU3qxIzXJo/OfC3mwNW4zQWJkG233UOf6YE rmrSaTIBTIWF8CxGY9iXPaJGNYSUa6R/VJS09EWeZgRz9Gk3h5AyDrdo5RFN9HNwOj41o0cj eLDF69092Lg5p5isuOqsrlPi5imHKcDtrXS7LacUI6H0c8onWoH9LuW99WznEtFgPJg++TAv f9M2x57Gzl+/nYTB5/Kpl1qdPPC91zUipiKbnF5f8bQpol0WC+ovmQARAQABiQIfBBgBAgAJ BQJTYPdaAhsMAAoJEESRkPMjWr074+0P/iEcN27dx3oBTzoeGEBhZUVQRZ7w4A61H/vW8oO8 IPkZv9kFr5pCfIonmHEbBlg6yfjeHXwF5SF2ywWRKkRsFHpaFWywxqk9HWXu8cGR1pFsrwC3 EdossuVbEFNmhjHvcAo11nJ7JFzPTEnlPjE6OY9tEDwl+kp1WvyXqNk9bosaX8ivikhmhB47 7BA3Kv8uUE7UL6p7CBdqumaOFISi1we5PYE4P/6YcyhQ9Z2wH6ad2PpwAFNBwxSu+xCrVmaD skAwknf6UVPN3bt67sFAaVgotepx6SPhBuH4OSOxVHMDDLMu7W7pJjnSKzMcAyXmdjON05Sz SaILwfceByvHAnvcFh2pXK9U4E/SyWZDJEcGRRt79akzZxls52stJK/2Tsr0vKtZVAwogiaK uSp+m6BRQcVVhTo/Kq3E0tSnsTHFeIO6QFHKJCJv4FRE3Dmtz15lueihUBowsq9Hk+u3UiLo SmrMAZ6KgA4SQxB2p8/M53kNJl92HHc9nc//aCQDi1R71NyhtSx+6PyivoBkuaKYs+S4pHmt sFE+5+pkUNROtm4ExLen4N4OL6Kq85mWGf2f6hd+OWtn8we1mADjDtdnDHuv+3E3cacFJPP/ wFV94ZhqvW4QcyBWcRNFA5roa7vcnu/MsCcBoheR0UdYsOnJoEpSZswvC/BGqJTkA2sf Message-ID: <5d326ec1-88c6-e0ce-2280-a00c7b35a811@inria.fr> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:12:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20201019125053.GM2628@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org Le 19/10/2020 à 14:50, Peter Zijlstra a écrit : > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 01:32:26PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 12:35:22 +0200 >> Peter Zijlstra wrote: >>> I'm confused by all of this. The core level is exactly what you seem to >>> want. >> It's the level above the core, whether in an multi-threaded core >> or a single threaded core. This may correspond to the level >> at which caches are shared (typically L3). Cores are already well >> represented via thread_siblings and similar. Extra confusion is that >> the current core_siblings (deprecated) sysfs interface, actually reflects >> the package level and ignores anything in between core and >> package (such as die on x86) > That seems wrong. core-mask should be whatever cores share L3. So on a > Intel Core2-Quad (just to pick an example) you should have 4 CPU in a > package, but only 2 CPUs for the core-mask. > > It just so happens that L3 and package were the same for a long while in > x86 land, although recent chips started breaking that trend. > > And I know nothing about the core-mask being depricated; it's what the > scheduler uses. It's not going anywhere. Only the sysfs filenames are deprecated: thread_siblings -> core_cpus core_siblings -> package_cpus New names reflect better what has been implemented/documented in the past (core_siblings=package_cpus are processors with same physical package id). And that's indeed different from the core-mask you are talking about above with Core2-Quad (that one has never been exposed anywhere in sysfs, except in the L3 cpumap). Brice