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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Alexandru Gagniuc <mr.nuke.me@gmail.com>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] PCI / ACPI: Handle sibling devices sharing power resources
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 16:08:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0gHTVPNc_LJzPCOLZpHU=wsbYQs__WabOQHmu8GPCChag@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190606134419.GL2781@lahna.fi.intel.com>

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 3:44 PM Mika Westerberg
<mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 02:26:40PM +0300, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 10:54:40AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Mika Westerberg
> > > <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Intel Ice Lake has an interated Thunderbolt controller which means that
> > >
> > > integrated
> >
> > Right :)
> >
> > > > the PCIe topology is extended directly from the two root ports (RP0 and
> > > > RP1). Power management is handled by ACPI power resources that are
> > > > shared between the root ports, Thunderbolt controller (NHI) and xHCI
> > > > controller.
> > > >
> > > > The topology with the power resources (marked with []) looks like:
> > > >
> > > >   Host bridge
> > > >       |
> > > >       +- RP0 ---\
> > > >       +- RP1 ---|--+--> [TBT]
> > > >       +- NHI --/   |
> > > >       |            |
> > > >       |            v
> > > >       +- xHCI --> [D3C]
> > > >
> > > > Here TBT and D3C are the shared ACPI power resources. ACPI _PR3() method
> > > > returns either TBT or D3C or both.
> > > >
> > > > Say we runtime suspend first the root ports RP0 and RP1, then NHI. Now
> > > > since the TBT power resource is still on when the root ports are runtime
> > > > suspended their dev->current_state is set to D3hot. When NHI is runtime
> > > > suspended TBT is finally turned off but state of the root ports remain
> > > > to be D3hot.
> > >
> > > It looks like this problem will affect all ACPI devices using power
> > > resources and _PR3 in general, so fixing it just for PCI is not
> > > sufficient IMO.
> >
> > Fair enough.
> >
> > > An alternative approach may be to set the state of a device that
> > > dropped its references to power resources listed in _PR3 to D3cold
> > > even though those power resources may be physically "on" at that time.
> > > Everything else (including this patch AFAICS) will be racy this way or
> > > another.
> >
> > OK, thanks for the comment. I'll try to look into this approach then.
>
> One additional question.
>
> How about the other direction when shared power resource(s) gets turned
> on? We would need to wake up all the sharing devices so that their state
> gets restored back from D0uninitialized.

That isn't necessary IMO as long as the device are not accessed.  If
the kernel thinks that a given device is in D3cold and doesn't access
it, then it really doesn't matter too much what state the device is in
physically.  On the first access the device should be reinitialized
anyway.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-06 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-05 14:58 [PATCH 0/3] PCI: Power management improvements Mika Westerberg
2019-06-05 14:58 ` [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Add missing link delays required by the PCIe spec Mika Westerberg
2019-06-06  8:40   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-06-06 11:24     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-06-05 14:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] PCI: Do not poll for PME if the device is in D3cold Mika Westerberg
2019-06-05 19:05   ` Lukas Wunner
2019-06-06 11:21     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-06-09 18:38   ` Lukas Wunner
2019-06-10 11:35   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-06-05 14:58 ` [PATCH 3/3] PCI / ACPI: Handle sibling devices sharing power resources Mika Westerberg
2019-06-06  8:54   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-06-06 11:26     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-06-06 13:44       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-06-06 14:08         ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2019-06-06 14:17           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-06-06 14:27             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-06-06 14:36               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-06-12 22:38                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-06-13 12:52                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-06-13 13:51                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-06-13 14:27                       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-06-09 18:58               ` Lukas Wunner
2019-06-10 10:57                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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