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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	"Cc: Android Kernel" <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] driver core: fw_devlink: Add support for FWNODE_FLAG_NEEDS_CHILD_BOUND_ON_ADD
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:02:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YUpIgTqyrDRXMUyC@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGETcx9hTFhY4+fHd71zYUsWW223GfUWBp8xxFCb2SNR6YUQ4Q@mail.gmail.com>

> There are cases where the children try to probe too quickly (before
> the parent has had time to set up all the resources it's setting up)
> and the child defers the probe. Even Andrew had an example of that
> with some ethernet driver where the deferred probe is attempted
> multiple times wasting time and then it eventually succeeds.

And i prefer an occasional EPROBE_DEFER over a broken Ethernet switch,
which is the current state. I'm happy to see optimisations, but not at
the expense of breaking working stuff.

> Also, this assumption that the child will be bound successfully upon
> addition forces the parent/child drivers to play initcall chicken

We have never had any initcall chicken problems. The switch drivers
all are standard mdio_module_driver, module_platform_driver,
module_i2c_driver, module_pci_driver. Nothing special here. Things
load in whatever order they load, and it all works out, maybe with an
EPROBE_DEFER cycle. Which is good, we get our error paths tested, and
sometimes find bugs that way.

     Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-21 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-15 17:09 [PATCH v3 0/3] fw_devlink bug fixes Saravana Kannan
2021-09-15 17:09 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] driver core: fw_devlink: Improve handling of cyclic dependencies Saravana Kannan
2021-09-18 14:38   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-09-15 17:09 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] driver core: fw_devlink: Add support for FWNODE_FLAG_NEEDS_CHILD_BOUND_ON_ADD Saravana Kannan
2021-09-18 15:03   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-09-19  1:16     ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-19  6:41       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-21 16:15       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-21 16:35         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-09-21 17:56           ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-21 18:56             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-09-21 19:50               ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-21 20:07                 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-09-21 21:02                   ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2021-09-21 21:54                     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-09-21 22:04                       ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-21 22:26                         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-09-22  0:45                           ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-22  1:00                             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-09-22 12:52                               ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-23 12:48                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-09-15 17:09 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] net: mdiobus: Set FWNODE_FLAG_NEEDS_CHILD_BOUND_ON_ADD for mdiobus parents Saravana Kannan
2021-09-23 17:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] fw_devlink bug fixes Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-23 19:44   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-24  6:09     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-23 22:28 ` Florian Fainelli

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