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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [NEEDS-REVIEW] Re: [PATCH v11 25/25] x86/cet/shstk: Add arch_prctl functions for shadow stack
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 23:32:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305ca8a74580a87d6c9aaa1c8d7f97422863ce0.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b5b5787b-17ce-4e66-8bc6-ab42ae3e398d@www.fastmail.com>

On Mon, 2021-09-20 at 09:48 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> My general opinion here (take this with a grain of salt -- I haven't
> paged back in every single detail) is that the kernel should make it
> straightforward for a libc to do the right thing without nasty races,
> cross-thread coordination, or unnecessary permission to write to the
> stack.  I *also* think that it should be possible for userspace to
> manage its own shadow stack allocation if it wants to, since I'm sure
> there will be JIT or green thread or other use cases that want to do
> crazy things that we fail to anticipate with in-kernel magic.
> 
> So perhaps we should keep the explicit allocation and free
> operations, have a way to opt-in to WRSS being flipped on, but also
> do our best to have API that handle the known cases well.
> 
> Does that make sense?  Can we have both approaches work in the same
> kernel?

I think so. I'll take a look at adding a prctl to enable WRSS. Since
there already is ARCH_X86_CET_DISABLE to disable CET, it doesn't seem
like it should escalate anything. And ARCH_X86_CET_LOCK can prevent
turning it on if desired.

Thanks,

Rick

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-23 23:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-25  0:25 [PATCH v11 00/25] Control-flow Enforcement: Shadow Stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 01/25] Documentation/x86: Add CET description Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 02/25] x86/cpufeatures: Add CET CPU feature flags for Control-flow Enforcement Technology (CET) Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 03/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce CET MSR XSAVES supervisor states Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 04/25] x86/cet: Add control-protection fault handler Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 05/25] x86/cet/shstk: Add Kconfig option for user-mode Shadow Stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 06/25] x86/mm: Change _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_DIRTY_HW Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 07/25] x86/mm: Remove _PAGE_DIRTY_HW from kernel RO pages Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 08/25] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_COW Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 09/25] drm/i915/gvt: Change _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_DIRTY_BITS Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 10/25] x86/mm: Update pte_modify for _PAGE_COW Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 11/25] x86/mm: Update ptep_set_wrprotect() and pmdp_set_wrprotect() for transition from _PAGE_DIRTY_HW to _PAGE_COW Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 12/25] mm: Introduce VM_SHSTK for shadow stack memory Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 13/25] x86/mm: Shadow Stack page fault error checking Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 14/25] x86/mm: Update maybe_mkwrite() for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 15/25] mm: Fixup places that call pte_mkwrite() directly Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 16/25] mm: Add guard pages around a shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 17/25] mm/mmap: Add shadow stack pages to memory accounting Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 18/25] mm: Update can_follow_write_pte() for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 19/25] mm: Re-introduce do_mmap_pgoff() Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 20/25] x86/cet/shstk: User-mode shadow stack support Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 21/25] x86/cet/shstk: Handle signals for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 22/25] binfmt_elf: Define GNU_PROPERTY_X86_FEATURE_1_AND properties Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 23/25] ELF: Introduce arch_setup_elf_property() Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 24/25] x86/cet/shstk: Handle thread shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:25 ` [PATCH v11 25/25] x86/cet/shstk: Add arch_prctl functions for " Yu-cheng Yu
2020-08-25  0:36   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-25 18:43     ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-08-25 19:19       ` Dave Hansen
2020-08-25 21:04         ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-08-25 23:20           ` Dave Hansen
2020-08-25 23:34             ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-08-26 16:46               ` Dave Martin
2020-08-26 16:51                 ` Florian Weimer
2020-08-26 17:04                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-26 18:49                     ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-08-26 19:43                       ` H.J. Lu
2020-08-26 19:57                       ` Dave Hansen
2020-08-27 13:26                         ` H.J. Lu
2020-09-01 10:28                           ` Dave Martin
2020-09-01 17:23                             ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-01 17:45                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-01 18:11                                 ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-02 13:58                                   ` Dave Martin
     [not found]                                   ` <46dffdfd-92f8-0f05-6164-945f217b0958@intel.com>
2020-09-08 17:57                                     ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-08 18:25                                       ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-09 22:08                                         ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-09 22:59                                           ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-09 23:07                                             ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-09 23:11                                               ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-09 23:25                                                 ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-09 23:29                                                   ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-09 23:45                                                     ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-11 22:59                                                     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-14 14:50                                                       ` [NEEDS-REVIEW] " Dave Hansen
2020-09-14 18:31                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-14 20:44                                                           ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-14 21:14                                                           ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-16 13:52                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-16 19:25                                                               ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2021-09-14  1:33                                                           ` [NEEDS-REVIEW] " Edgecombe, Rick P
2021-09-14  9:53                                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2021-09-20 16:48                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-23 23:32                                                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
     [not found]                                                         ` <bf2ab309-f8c4-83da-1c0a-5684e5bc5c82@intel.com>
2020-09-15 19:08                                                           ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-15 19:24                                                             ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-15 20:16                                                               ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-08-26 17:08                   ` Dave Martin
2020-08-27 13:18                     ` Florian Weimer
2020-08-27 13:28                       ` H.J. Lu
2020-08-27 13:36                         ` Florian Weimer
2020-08-27 14:07                           ` H.J. Lu
2020-08-27 14:08                             ` H.J. Lu
2020-09-01 17:49                               ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-01 17:50                                 ` Florian Weimer
2020-09-01 17:58                                   ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-01 18:17                                     ` Florian Weimer
2020-09-01 18:19                                       ` H.J. Lu
2020-09-01 18:24                                       ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-08-27 18:13                           ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-08-27 18:56                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-27 19:33                               ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-08-27 19:37                               ` H.J. Lu
2020-08-28  1:35                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-28  1:44                                   ` H.J. Lu
2020-08-28  6:23                                     ` Florian Weimer
2020-08-28 11:37                                       ` H.J. Lu
2020-08-28 17:39                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-28 17:45                                           ` H.J. Lu

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