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From: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
To: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com>,
	Andrei Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>,
	Adrian Reber <adrian@lisas.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@virtuozzo.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	criu@openvz.org, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Time Namespaces: CLONE_NEWTIME and clone3()?
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 15:59:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200217145908.7epzz5nescccwvzv@wittgenstein> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHO5Pa2_7BzZPCXjFj4f=YoX28M4q2Au=h6GrzN-EjRffMo1iw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 03:20:55PM +0100, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> Hello Dmitry, Andrei,
> 
> Is the CLONE_NEWTIME flag intended to be usable with clone3()? The
> mail quoted below implies (in my reading) that this should be possible
> once clone3() is available, which it is by now. (See also [1].)
> 
> If the answer is yes, CLONE_NEWTIME  should be usable with clone3(),
> then I have a bug report and a question.
> 
> I successfully used CLONE_NEWTIME with unshare(). But if I try to use
> CLONE_NEWSIGNAL with clone3(), it errors out with EINVAL, because of

s/CLONE_NEWSIGNAL/CLONE_NEWTIME/

> the following check in clone3_args_valid():
> 
>         /*
>          * - make the CLONE_DETACHED bit reuseable for clone3
>          * - make the CSIGNAL bits reuseable for clone3
>          */
>         if (kargs->flags & (CLONE_DETACHED | CSIGNAL))
>                 return false;
> 
> The problem is that CLONE_NEWTIME matches one of the bits in the
> CSIGNAL mask. If the intention is to allow CLONE_NEWTIME with
> clone3(), then either the bit needs to be redefined, or the error
> checking in clone3_args_valid() needs to be reworked.

If this is intended to be useable with clone3() the check should be
adapted to allow for CLONE_NEWTIME. (I asked about this a while ago I
think.)
But below rather sounds like it should simply be an unshare() flag. The
code seems to set frozen_offsets to true right after copy_namespaces()
in timens_on_fork(new_ns, tsk) and so the offsets can't be changed
anymore unless I'm reading this wrong.
Alternatives seem to either make timens_offsets writable once after fork
and before exec, I guess - though that's probably not going to work
with the vdso judging from timens_on_fork().

The other alternative is that Andrei and Dmitry send me a patch to
enable CLONE_NEWTIME with clone3() by exposing struct timens_offsets (or
a version of it) in the uapi and extend struct clone_args to include a
pointer to a struct timens_offset that is _only_ set when CLONE_NEWTIME
is set.
Though the unshare() way sounds way less invasive simpler.

Christian

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-17 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-12  1:26 [PATCHv8 00/34] kernel: Introduce Time Namespace Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:26 ` [PATCHv8 01/34] lib/vdso: Add unlikely() hint into vdso_read_begin() Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:26 ` [PATCHv8 02/34] lib/vdso: make do_hres and do_coarse as __always_inline Dmitry Safonov
     [not found]   ` <20191112012724.250792-3-dima-nzgTgzXrdUbQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-10  9:45     ` Vincenzo Frascino
2020-01-10 11:42       ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]         ` <878smfa66i.fsf-ecDvlHI5BZPZikZi3RtOZ1XZhhPuCNm+@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-10 11:47           ` Vincenzo Frascino
2020-01-10 12:02             ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]               ` <875zhja59q.fsf-ecDvlHI5BZPZikZi3RtOZ1XZhhPuCNm+@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-10 12:18                 ` Vincenzo Frascino
2020-01-13  5:27               ` Andrei Vagin
2019-11-12  1:26 ` [PATCHv8 03/34] ns: Introduce Time Namespace Dmitry Safonov
     [not found]   ` <20191112012724.250792-4-dima-nzgTgzXrdUbQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-27 14:12     ` Dmitry Vyukov
     [not found]       ` <CACT4Y+b70bRRS2XD3yxhBoy4E-LFy_K3wMrjeuPmiEvaPe_c2Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-27 14:19         ` Dmitry Safonov
2020-02-17 14:20   ` Time Namespaces: CLONE_NEWTIME and clone3()? Michael Kerrisk
2020-02-17 14:59     ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2020-02-17 21:47       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-02-17 23:03         ` Christian Brauner
2020-02-17 23:29           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-02-18  2:37             ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-18 17:11           ` Adrian Reber
2020-02-18 17:26             ` Christian Brauner
2019-11-12  1:26 ` [PATCHv8 04/34] time: Add timens_offsets to be used for tasks in timens Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:26 ` [PATCHv8 05/34] posix-clocks: Rename the clock_get() callback to clock_get_timespec() Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:26 ` [PATCHv8 06/34] posix-clocks: Rename .clock_get_timespec() callbacks accordingly Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:26 ` [PATCHv8 07/34] alarmtimer: Rename gettime() callback to get_ktime() Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:26 ` [PATCHv8 08/34] alarmtimer: Provide get_timespec() callback Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:26 ` [PATCHv8 09/34] posix-clocks: Introduce clock_get_ktime() callback Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:26 ` [PATCHv8 10/34] posix-timers: Use clock_get_ktime() in common_timer_get() Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 11/34] posix-clocks: Wire up clock_gettime() with timens offsets Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 12/34] kernel: Add do_timens_ktime_to_host() helper Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 13/34] timerfd: Make timerfd_settime() time namespace aware Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 14/34] posix-timers: Make timer_settime() " Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 15/34] alarmtimer: Make nanosleep " Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 16/34] hrtimers: Prepare hrtimer_nanosleep() for time namespaces Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 17/34] posix-timers: Make clock_nanosleep() time namespace aware Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 18/34] fs/proc: Respect boottime inside time namespace for /proc/uptime Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 19/34] x86/vdso: Restrict splitting VVAR VMA Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 20/34] lib/vdso: Prepare for time namespace support Dmitry Safonov
     [not found]   ` <20191112012724.250792-21-dima-nzgTgzXrdUbQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-12 10:32     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 21/34] x86/vdso: Provide vdso_data offset on vvar_page Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 22/34] x86/vdso: Add timens page Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 23/34] time: Allocate per-timens vvar page Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 24/34] x86/vdso: Handle faults on timens page Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 25/34] x86/vdso: On timens page fault prefault also VVAR page Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 26/34] x86/vdso: Zap vvar pages on switch a time namspace Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 27/34] fs/proc: Introduce /proc/pid/timens_offsets Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 28/34] selftests/timens: Add Time Namespace test for supported clocks Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 29/34] selftests/timens: Add a test for timerfd Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 30/34] selftests/timens: Add a test for clock_nanosleep() Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 31/34] selftests/timens: Add procfs selftest Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 32/34] selftests/timens: Add timer offsets test Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 33/34] selftests/timens: Add a simple perf test for clock_gettime() Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  1:27 ` [PATCHv8 34/34] selftests/timens: Check for right timens offsets after fork and exec Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-21 18:05 ` [PATCHv8 00/34] kernel: Introduce Time Namespace Andrei Vagin
2019-12-11 20:38   ` Dmitry Safonov
2020-01-09 21:09     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-10  9:52       ` Vincenzo Frascino

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