From: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
strace-devel@lists.strace.io, io-uring@vger.kernel.org,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: strace of io_uring events?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 17:58:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200721155848.32xtze5ntvcmjv63@steredhat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXSPdiVCgh3h=q7w9RyiKnp-=8jOHoFHX=an0cWqK7bzQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 08:27:34AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 1:02 AM Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 08:12:35AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 03:14:04PM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
>
> > > access (IIUC) is possible without actually calling any of the io_uring
> > > syscalls. Is that correct? A process would receive an fd (via SCM_RIGHTS,
> > > pidfd_getfd, or soon seccomp addfd), and then call mmap() on it to gain
> > > access to the SQ and CQ, and off it goes? (The only glitch I see is
> > > waking up the worker thread?)
> >
> > It is true only if the io_uring istance is created with SQPOLL flag (not the
> > default behaviour and it requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN). In this case the
> > kthread is created and you can also set an higher idle time for it, so
> > also the waking up syscall can be avoided.
>
> I stared at the io_uring code for a while, and I'm wondering if we're
> approaching this the wrong way. It seems to me that most of the
> complications here come from the fact that io_uring SQEs don't clearly
> belong to any particular security principle. (We have struct creds,
> but we don't really have a task or mm.) But I'm also not convinced
> that io_uring actually supports cross-mm submission except by accident
> -- as it stands, unless a user is very careful to only submit SQEs
> that don't use user pointers, the results will be unpredictable.
> Perhaps we can get away with this:
>
> diff --git a/fs/io_uring.c b/fs/io_uring.c
> index 74bc4a04befa..92266f869174 100644
> --- a/fs/io_uring.c
> +++ b/fs/io_uring.c
> @@ -7660,6 +7660,20 @@ SYSCALL_DEFINE6(io_uring_enter, unsigned int,
> fd, u32, to_submit,
> if (!percpu_ref_tryget(&ctx->refs))
> goto out_fput;
>
> + if (unlikely(current->mm != ctx->sqo_mm)) {
> + /*
> + * The mm used to process SQEs will be current->mm or
> + * ctx->sqo_mm depending on which submission path is used.
> + * It's also unclear who is responsible for an SQE submitted
> + * out-of-process from a security and auditing perspective.
> + *
> + * Until a real usecase emerges and there are clear semantics
> + * for out-of-process submission, disallow it.
> + */
> + ret = -EACCES;
> + goto out;
> + }
> +
> /*
> * For SQ polling, the thread will do all submissions and completions.
> * Just return the requested submit count, and wake the thread if
>
> If we can do that, then we could bind seccomp-like io_uring filters to
> an mm, and we get obvious semantics that ought to cover most of the
> bases.
>
> Jens, Christoph?
>
> Stefano, what's your intended usecase for your restriction patchset?
>
Hi Andy,
my use case concerns virtualization. The idea, that I described in the
proposal of io-uring restrictions [1], is to share io_uring CQ and SQ queues
with a guest VM for block operations.
In the PoC that I realized, there is a block device driver in the guest that
uses io_uring queues coming from the host to submit block requests.
Since the guest is not trusted, we need restrictions to allow only
a subset of syscalls on a subset of file descriptors and memory.
Cheers,
Stefano
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/io-uring/20200609142406.upuwpfmgqjeji4lc@steredhat/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-21 15:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-15 11:12 strace of io_uring events? Miklos Szeredi
2020-07-15 14:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-15 17:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-15 19:42 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-15 20:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-07-15 20:20 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-15 23:07 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-16 13:14 ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-07-16 15:12 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-17 8:01 ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-07-21 15:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-21 15:31 ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-21 17:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-21 17:30 ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-21 17:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-21 18:39 ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-21 19:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-21 19:48 ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-21 19:56 ` Andres Freund
2020-07-21 19:37 ` Andres Freund
2020-07-21 15:58 ` Stefano Garzarella [this message]
2020-07-23 10:39 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-23 13:37 ` Colin Walters
2020-07-24 7:25 ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-07-16 13:17 ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-07-16 15:19 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-17 8:17 ` Cyril Hrubis
2020-07-16 16:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-16 0:12 ` tytso
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