From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 5/6] mm: secretmem: use PMD-size pages to amortize direct map fragmentation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:12:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200929141216.GO2628@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200929130529.GE2142832@kernel.org>
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 04:05:29PM +0300, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:41:25AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 04:29:03PM +0300, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > > From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
> > >
> > > Removing a PAGE_SIZE page from the direct map every time such page is
> > > allocated for a secret memory mapping will cause severe fragmentation of
> > > the direct map. This fragmentation can be reduced by using PMD-size pages
> > > as a pool for small pages for secret memory mappings.
> > >
> > > Add a gen_pool per secretmem inode and lazily populate this pool with
> > > PMD-size pages.
> >
> > What's the actual efficacy of this? Since the pmd is per inode, all I
> > need is a lot of inodes and we're in business to destroy the directmap,
> > no?
> >
> > Afaict there's no privs needed to use this, all a process needs is to
> > stay below the mlock limit, so a 'fork-bomb' that maps a single secret
> > page will utterly destroy the direct map.
>
> This indeed will cause 1G pages in the direct map to be split into 2M
> chunks, but I disagree with 'destroy' term here. Citing the cover letter
> of an earlier version of this series:
It will drop them down to 4k pages. Given enough inodes, and allocating
only a single sekrit page per pmd, we'll shatter the directmap into 4k.
> I've tried to find some numbers that show the benefit of using larger
> pages in the direct map, but I couldn't find anything so I've run a
> couple of benchmarks from phoronix-test-suite on my laptop (i7-8650U
> with 32G RAM).
Existing benchmarks suck at this, but FB had a load that had a
deterministic enough performance regression to bisect to a directmap
issue, fixed by:
7af0145067bc ("x86/mm/cpa: Prevent large page split when ftrace flips RW on kernel text")
> I've tested three variants: the default with 28G of the physical
> memory covered with 1G pages, then I disabled 1G pages using
> "nogbpages" in the kernel command line and at last I've forced the
> entire direct map to use 4K pages using a simple patch to
> arch/x86/mm/init.c. I've made runs of the benchmarks with SSD and
> tmpfs.
>
> Surprisingly, the results does not show huge advantage for large
> pages. For instance, here the results for kernel build with
> 'make -j8', in seconds:
Your benchmark should stress the TLB of your uarch, such that additional
pressure added by the shattered directmap shows up.
And no, I don't have one either.
> | 1G | 2M | 4K
> ----------------------+--------+--------+---------
> ssd, mitigations=on | 308.75 | 317.37 | 314.9
> ssd, mitigations=off | 305.25 | 295.32 | 304.92
> ram, mitigations=on | 301.58 | 322.49 | 306.54
> ram, mitigations=off | 299.32 | 288.44 | 310.65
These results lack error data, but assuming the reults are significant,
then this very much makes a case for 1G mappings. 5s on a kernel builds
is pretty good.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-29 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-24 13:28 [PATCH v6 0/6] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas Mike Rapoport
2020-09-24 13:28 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] mm: add definition of PMD_PAGE_ORDER Mike Rapoport
2020-09-24 13:29 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] mmap: make mlock_future_check() global Mike Rapoport
2020-09-24 13:29 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas Mike Rapoport
2020-09-29 4:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2020-09-29 13:06 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-29 20:06 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2020-09-30 10:35 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-30 20:11 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2020-10-11 9:42 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-24 13:29 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] arch, mm: wire up memfd_secret system call were relevant Mike Rapoport
2020-09-24 13:29 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] mm: secretmem: use PMD-size pages to amortize direct map fragmentation Mike Rapoport
2020-09-25 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-25 9:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-25 9:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-25 10:31 ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-25 14:57 ` Tycho Andersen
2020-09-29 14:04 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-29 13:07 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-29 13:06 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-29 13:05 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-29 14:12 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2020-09-29 14:31 ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-29 14:58 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-29 15:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-30 10:27 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-30 14:39 ` James Bottomley
2020-09-30 14:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-30 15:17 ` James Bottomley
2020-09-30 15:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-30 15:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-01 8:14 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-29 15:03 ` James Bottomley
2020-09-30 10:20 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-30 10:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 13:29 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] secretmem: test: add basic selftest for memfd_secret(2) Mike Rapoport
2020-09-24 13:35 ` [PATCH] man2: new page describing memfd_secret() system call Mike Rapoport
2020-09-24 14:55 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-10-03 9:32 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-10-05 7:32 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-16 21:01 ` [PATCH v2] memfd_secret.2: New " Alejandro Colomar
2020-11-17 6:26 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-25 2:34 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas Andrew Morton
2020-09-25 6:42 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-01 11:09 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2020-11-02 15:40 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-03 13:52 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2020-11-03 16:30 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-04 11:39 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2020-11-04 17:02 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-09 10:41 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2020-11-02 9:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-02 9:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-02 17:43 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-02 17:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-03 9:52 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-03 10:11 ` David Hildenbrand
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