From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E89C41604 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 17:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198592075A for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 17:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726064AbgJFRA1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Oct 2020 13:00:27 -0400 Received: from foss.arm.com ([217.140.110.172]:52364 "EHLO foss.arm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725947AbgJFRA1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Oct 2020 13:00:27 -0400 Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31C1D6E; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 10:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arm.com (usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A660A3F66B; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 10:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 18:00:21 +0100 From: Dave Martin To: Dave Hansen Cc: "H.J. Lu" , "Chang S. Bae" , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Borislav Petkov , Andy Lutomirski , the arch/x86 maintainers , Len Brown , Michael Ellerman , Tony Luck , "Ravi V. Shankar" , GNU C Library , linux-arch , Linux API , LKML Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] x86: Improve Minimum Alternate Stack Size Message-ID: <20201006170020.GB6642@arm.com> References: <20200929205746.6763-1-chang.seok.bae@intel.com> <20201005134534.GT6642@arm.com> <20201006092532.GU6642@arm.com> <20201006152553.GY6642@arm.com> <7663eff0-6c94-f6bf-f3e2-93ede50e75ed@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7663eff0-6c94-f6bf-f3e2-93ede50e75ed@intel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-api@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 08:33:47AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote: > On 10/6/20 8:25 AM, Dave Martin wrote: > > Or are people reporting real stack overruns on x86 today? > > We have real overruns. We have ~2800 bytes of XSAVE (regisiter) state > mostly from AVX-512, and a 2048 byte MINSIGSTKSZ. Right. Out of interest, do you believe that's a direct consequence of the larger kernel-generated signal frame, or does the expansion of userspace stack frames play a role too? In practice software just assumes SIGSTKSZ and then ignores the problem until / unless an actual stack overflow is seen. There's probably a lot of software out there whose stack is theoretically too small even without AVX-512 etc. in the mix, especially when considering the possibility of nested signals... Cheers ---Dave