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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
	kernel-team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC]: userspace memory reaping
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:46:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201103214532.GC1631979@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpELVYSNsjnXvg7pXQiwMBYpffcy5aNqj84t70-qN1XYiQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 01:40:41PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 1:32 PM Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 10:35:50AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Mon 02-11-20 12:29:24, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > To follow up on this. Should I post an RFC implementing SIGKILL_SYNC
> > > > which in addition to sending a kill signal would also reap the
> > > > victim's mm in the context of the caller? Maybe having some code will
> > > > get the discussion moving forward?
> > >
> > > Yeah, having a code, even preliminary, might help here. This definitely
> > > needs a good to go from process management people as that proper is land
> > > full of surprises...
> >
> > Just to remind a idea I suggested to reuse existing concept
> >
> >     fd = pidfd_open(victim process)
> >     fdatasync(fd);
> >     close(fd);
> >
> 
> Yep, I just posted a comment about that. I think though your above
> sequence is missing a pidfd_send_signal(fd, SIGKILL) before the
> fdatasync(fd)...
> Not sure if fdatasync(pidfd) or fsync(pidfd) would be more appropriate
> for this but will use one and we can discuss details in the RFC with
> the code.

IMO, fdatasync would be better symantic since fsync invovles metadata
(i.e., task_struct, mm_struct and so on). I think what you need is
just pages attached to address_space, which sounds like data, not
metadata. 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-03 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-15  0:43 [RFC]: userspace memory reaping Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-09-15  0:45 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-10-14 12:09   ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-14 16:57     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-10-14 18:39       ` minchan
2020-10-15  9:20       ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-15 18:43         ` Minchan Kim
2020-10-15 19:32           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-10-15 19:25         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-11-02 20:29           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-11-03  9:35             ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-03 21:28               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-11-03 21:32               ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-03 21:40                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-11-03 21:46                   ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2020-11-04  6:58                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-04 20:40                   ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-05 12:20                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-05 16:50                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-11-05 17:07                         ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-05 17:16                         ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-05 17:21                           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-11-05 17:41                             ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-05 17:43                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-05 18:02                               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-11-13 17:37                                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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