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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Paul Mackerras" <paulus@samba.org>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>, <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>, <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	<qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: remove the nvlink2 pci_vfio subdriver v2
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 09:33:24 -0600
Message-ID: <20210504093324.4f0cafc7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210504161131.2ed74d7b@bahia.lan>

On Tue, 4 May 2021 16:11:31 +0200
Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 May 2021 15:30:15 +0200
> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 03:20:34PM +0200, Greg Kurz wrote:  
> > > On Tue, 4 May 2021 14:59:07 +0200
> > > Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 02:22:36PM +0200, Greg Kurz wrote:  
> > > > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 07:13:09 +0100
> > > > > Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> > > > >   
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > the nvlink2 vfio subdriver is a weird beast.  It supports a hardware
> > > > > > feature without any open source component - what would normally be
> > > > > > the normal open source userspace that we require for kernel drivers,
> > > > > > although in this particular case user space could of course be a
> > > > > > kernel driver in a VM.  It also happens to be a complete mess that
> > > > > > does not properly bind to PCI IDs, is hacked into the vfio_pci driver
> > > > > > and also pulles in over 1000 lines of code always build into powerpc
> > > > > > kernels that have Power NV support enabled.  Because of all these
> > > > > > issues and the lack of breaking userspace when it is removed I think
> > > > > > the best idea is to simply kill.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Changes since v1:
> > > > > >  - document the removed subtypes as reserved
> > > > > >  - add the ACK from Greg
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Diffstat:
> > > > > >  arch/powerpc/platforms/powernv/npu-dma.c     |  705 ---------------------------
> > > > > >  b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/opal.h            |    3 
> > > > > >  b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/pci-bridge.h      |    1 
> > > > > >  b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/pci.h             |    7 
> > > > > >  b/arch/powerpc/platforms/powernv/Makefile    |    2 
> > > > > >  b/arch/powerpc/platforms/powernv/opal-call.c |    2 
> > > > > >  b/arch/powerpc/platforms/powernv/pci-ioda.c  |  185 -------
> > > > > >  b/arch/powerpc/platforms/powernv/pci.c       |   11 
> > > > > >  b/arch/powerpc/platforms/powernv/pci.h       |   17 
> > > > > >  b/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/pci.c       |   23 
> > > > > >  b/drivers/vfio/pci/Kconfig                   |    6 
> > > > > >  b/drivers/vfio/pci/Makefile                  |    1 
> > > > > >  b/drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci.c                |   18 
> > > > > >  b/drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci_private.h        |   14 
> > > > > >  b/include/uapi/linux/vfio.h                  |   38 -  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi Christoph,
> > > > > 
> > > > > FYI, these uapi changes break build of QEMU.  
> > > > 
> > > > What uapi changes?
> > > >   
> > > 
> > > All macros and structure definitions that are being removed
> > > from include/uapi/linux/vfio.h by patch 1.
> > >   
> > > > What exactly breaks?
> > > >   
> > > 
> > > These macros and types are used by the current QEMU code base.
> > > Next time the QEMU source tree updates its copy of the kernel
> > > headers, the compilation of affected code will fail.  
> > 
> > So does QEMU use this api that is being removed, or does it just have
> > some odd build artifacts of the uapi things?
> >   
> 
> These are region subtypes definition and associated capabilities.
> QEMU basically gets information on VFIO regions from the kernel
> driver and for those regions with a nvlink2 subtype, it tries
> to extract some more nvlink2 related info.


Urgh, let's put the uapi header back in place with a deprecation
notice.  Userspace should never have a dependency on the existence of a
given region, but clearly will have code to parse the data structure
describing that region.  I'll post a patch.  Thanks,

Alex


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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-26  6:13 Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-26  6:13 ` [PATCH 1/2] vfio/pci: remove vfio_pci_nvlink2 Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-06 19:38   ` Alex Williamson
2021-04-12  9:41     ` Michael Ellerman
2021-04-12 14:23       ` Alex Williamson
2021-04-22 13:49         ` Michael Ellerman
2021-04-22 13:52           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-26  6:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] powerpc/powernv: remove the nvlink support Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-04 12:22 ` remove the nvlink2 pci_vfio subdriver v2 Greg Kurz
2021-05-04 12:59   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-05-04 13:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-04 13:08       ` Cornelia Huck
2021-05-04 13:20     ` Greg Kurz
2021-05-04 13:30       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-05-04 14:11         ` Greg Kurz
2021-05-04 15:33           ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2021-05-04 14:23       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-04 15:53         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-04 16:30           ` Daniel Vetter

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