From: "Madhavan T. Venkataraman" <madvenka@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] [RFC] Implement Trampoline File Descriptor
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 13:52:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <59246260-e535-a9f1-d89e-4e953288b977@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUta5-0TLJ9-jfdehpTAp2Efmukk2npYadFzz9ozOrG2w@mail.gmail.com>
On 7/28/20 12:16 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:32 AM Madhavan T. Venkataraman
> <madvenka@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> Thanks. See inline..
>>
>> On 7/28/20 10:13 AM, David Laight wrote:
>>> From: madvenka@linux.microsoft.com
>>>> Sent: 28 July 2020 14:11
>>> ...
>>>> The kernel creates the trampoline mapping without any permissions. When
>>>> the trampoline is executed by user code, a page fault happens and the
>>>> kernel gets control. The kernel recognizes that this is a trampoline
>>>> invocation. It sets up the user registers based on the specified
>>>> register context, and/or pushes values on the user stack based on the
>>>> specified stack context, and sets the user PC to the requested target
>>>> PC. When the kernel returns, execution continues at the target PC.
>>>> So, the kernel does the work of the trampoline on behalf of the
>>>> application.
>>> Isn't the performance of this going to be horrid?
>> It takes about the same amount of time as getpid(). So, it is
>> one quick trip into the kernel. I expect that applications will
>> typically not care about this extra overhead as long as
>> they are able to run.
> What did you test this on? A page fault on any modern x86_64 system
> is much, much, much, much slower than a syscall.
I sent a response to this. But the mail was returned to me.
I am resending.
I tested it in on a KVM guest running Ubuntu. So, when you say that a
page fault is much slower, do you mean a regular page fault that is handled
through the VM layer? Here is the relevant code in do_user_addr_fault():
if (unlikely(access_error(hw_error_code, vma))) {
/*
* If it is a user execute fault, it could be a trampoline
* invocation.
*/
if ((hw_error_code & tflags) == tflags &&
trampfd_fault(vma, regs)) {
up_read(&mm->mmap_sem);
return;
}
bad_area_access_error(regs, hw_error_code, address, vma);
return;
}
...
fault = handle_mm_fault(vma, address, flags);
trampfd faults are instruction faults that go through a different code path than
the one that calls handle_mm_fault(). Perhaps, it is the handle_mm_fault() that
is time consuming. Could you clarify?
Thanks.
Madhavan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-28 18:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <aefc85852ea518982e74b233e11e16d2e707bc32>
2020-07-28 13:10 ` [PATCH v1 0/4] [RFC] Implement Trampoline File Descriptor madvenka
2020-07-28 13:10 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] [RFC] fs/trampfd: Implement the trampoline file descriptor API madvenka
2020-07-28 14:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-28 14:58 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-07-28 16:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-28 13:10 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] [RFC] x86/trampfd: Provide support for the trampoline file descriptor madvenka
2020-07-30 9:06 ` Greg KH
2020-07-30 14:25 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-07-28 13:10 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] [RFC] arm64/trampfd: " madvenka
2020-07-28 13:10 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] [RFC] arm/trampfd: " madvenka
2020-07-28 15:13 ` [PATCH v1 0/4] [RFC] Implement Trampoline File Descriptor David Laight
2020-07-28 16:32 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-07-28 17:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-28 18:52 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman [this message]
2020-07-29 8:36 ` David Laight
2020-07-29 17:55 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
[not found] ` <81d744c0-923e-35ad-6063-8b186f6a153c@linux.microsoft.com>
2020-07-29 5:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-28 16:05 ` Casey Schaufler
2020-07-28 16:49 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-07-28 17:05 ` James Morris
2020-07-28 17:08 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-07-28 17:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-28 19:01 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-07-29 13:29 ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-30 13:09 ` David Laight
2020-08-02 11:56 ` Pavel Machek
2020-08-03 8:08 ` David Laight
2020-08-03 15:57 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-07-30 14:42 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
[not found] ` <6540b4b7-3f70-adbf-c922-43886599713a@linux.microsoft.com>
2020-07-30 20:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-31 17:13 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-07-31 18:31 ` Mark Rutland
2020-08-03 8:27 ` David Laight
2020-08-03 16:03 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-03 16:57 ` David Laight
2020-08-03 17:00 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-03 17:58 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-04 13:55 ` Mark Rutland
2020-08-04 14:33 ` David Laight
2020-08-04 14:44 ` David Laight
2020-08-04 14:48 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-04 15:46 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-02 13:57 ` Florian Weimer
2020-08-02 18:54 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-02 20:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-02 22:58 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-03 18:36 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-10 17:34 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-11 21:12 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-03 8:23 ` David Laight
2020-08-03 15:59 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-07-31 18:09 ` Mark Rutland
2020-07-31 20:08 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-03 16:57 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-04 14:30 ` Mark Rutland
2020-08-06 17:26 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-08 22:17 ` Pavel Machek
2020-08-11 12:41 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-11 13:08 ` Pavel Machek
2020-08-11 15:54 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-12 10:06 ` Mark Rutland
2020-08-12 18:47 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2020-08-19 18:53 ` Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-01 15:42 ` Mark Rutland
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