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From: Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] mm/mremap: add MREMAP_MIRROR flag for existing mirroring functionality
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 13:02:02 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <662d372a-5737-5f0b-8ac1-c997f3a935eb@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79eca23d-9f1a-9713-3f6b-8f7598d53190@oracle.com>

On 07/07/2017 11:39 PM, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> On 07/07/2017 10:45 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 10:29:52AM -0700, Mike Kravetz wrote:
>>> On 07/07/2017 03:23 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 09:17:26AM -0700, Mike Kravetz wrote:
>>>>> The mremap system call has the ability to 'mirror' parts of an existing
>>>>> mapping.  To do so, it creates a new mapping that maps the same pages as
>>>>> the original mapping, just at a different virtual address.  This
>>>>> functionality has existed since at least the 2.6 kernel.
>>>>>
>>>>> This patch simply adds a new flag to mremap which will make this
>>>>> functionality part of the API.  It maintains backward compatibility with
>>>>> the existing way of requesting mirroring (old_size == 0).
>>>>>
>>>>> If this new MREMAP_MIRROR flag is specified, then new_size must equal
>>>>> old_size.  In addition, the MREMAP_MAYMOVE flag must be specified.
>>>>
>>>> The patch breaks important invariant that anon page can be mapped into a
>>>> process only once.
>>>
>>> Actually, the patch does not add any new functionality.  It only provides
>>> a new interface to existing functionality.
>>>
>>> Is it not possible to have an anon page mapped twice into the same process
>>> via system V shared memory?  shmget(anon), shmat(), shmat.  
>>> Of course, those are shared rather than private anon pages.
>>
>> By anon pages I mean, private anon or file pages. These are subject to CoW.
>>
>>>> What is going to happen to mirrored after CoW for instance?
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion, it shouldn't be allowed for anon/private mappings at least.
>>>> And with this limitation, I don't see much sense in the new interface --
>>>> just create mirror by mmap()ing the file again.
>>>
>>> The code today works for anon shared mappings.  See simple program below.
>>>
>>> You are correct in that it makes little or no sense for private mappings.
>>> When looking closer at existing code, mremap() creates a new private
>>> mapping in this case.  This is most likely a bug.
>>
>> IIRC, existing code doesn't create mirrors of private pages as it requires
>> old_len to be zero. There's no way to get private pages mapped twice this
>> way.
> 
> Correct.
> As mentioned above, mremap does 'something' for private anon pages when
> old_len == 0.  However, this may be considered a bug.  In this case, mremap
> creates a new private anon mapping of length new_size.  Since old_len == 0,
> it does not unmap any of the old mapping.  So, in this case mremap basically
> creates a new private mapping (unrealted to the original) and does not
> modify the old mapping.
> 

Yeah, in my experiment, after the mremap() exists we have two different VMAs
which can contain two different set of data. No page sharing is happening.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-09  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-06 16:17 [RFC PATCH 0/1] mm/mremap: add MREMAP_MIRROR flag Mike Kravetz
2017-07-06 16:17 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] mm/mremap: add MREMAP_MIRROR flag for existing mirroring functionality Mike Kravetz
2017-07-07  8:45   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-07-07 17:14     ` Mike Kravetz
2017-07-09  7:23       ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-07-07 10:23   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-07-07 17:29     ` Mike Kravetz
2017-07-07 17:45       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-07-07 18:09         ` Mike Kravetz
2017-07-09  7:32           ` Anshuman Khandual [this message]
2017-07-10 16:22             ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-07-10 17:22               ` Mike Kravetz
2017-07-11 12:36   ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-11 18:23     ` Mike Kravetz
2017-07-11 21:02       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-07-11 21:57         ` Mike Kravetz
     [not found]           ` <fcfa8403-3151-41eb-4ac4-bbac55705626-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-11 23:31             ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]       ` <7f14334f-81d1-7698-d694-37278f05a78e-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-12 11:46         ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-12 16:55           ` Mike Kravetz
2017-07-13  6:16             ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-13 16:01               ` Mike Kravetz
2017-07-13 16:30                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-07-13 18:11                   ` Mike Kravetz
     [not found]                     ` <28a8da13-bdc2-3f23-dee9-607377ac1cc3-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-13 20:33                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-07-07  8:19 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] mm/mremap: add MREMAP_MIRROR flag Anshuman Khandual
2017-07-07 17:04   ` Mike Kravetz
     [not found] ` <1499357846-7481-1-git-send-email-mike.kravetz-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-07 11:03   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-07-07 17:12     ` Mike Kravetz

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