From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Attila Fazekas <afazekas@redhat.com>, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Ulrich Obergfell <uobergfe@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped.
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 03:07:42 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8760ir192p.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170304170312.GB13131@redhat.com> (Oleg Nesterov's message of "Sat, 4 Mar 2017 18:03:13 +0100")
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:
> On 03/03, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> @@ -1065,11 +1065,8 @@ static int de_thread(struct task_struct *tsk)
>> }
>>
>> sig->group_exit_task = tsk;
>> - sig->notify_count = zap_other_threads(tsk);
>> - if (!thread_group_leader(tsk))
>> - sig->notify_count--;
>> -
>> - while (sig->notify_count) {
>> + zap_other_threads(tsk);
>> + while (atomic_read(&sig->live) > 1) {
>> __set_current_state(TASK_KILLABLE);
>> spin_unlock_irq(lock);
>> schedule();
>
> Very nice. So de_thread() returns as soon as all other threads decrement
> signal->live in do_exit(). Before they do, say, exit_mm(). This is already
> wrong, for example this breaks OOM. Plus a lot more problems afaics, but
> lets ignore this.
Which means that we need to keep sig->notify_count.
> Note that de_thread() also unshares ->sighand before return. So in the
> case of mt exec it will likely see oldsighand->count != 1 and alloc the
> new sighand_struct and this breaks the locking.
>
> Because the execing thread will use newsighand->siglock to protect its
> signal_struct while the zombie threads will use oldsighand->siglock to
> protect the same signal struct. Yes, tasklist_lock + the fact irq_disable
> implies rcu_lock mostly save us but not entirely, say, a foreign process
> doing __send_signal() can take the right or the wrong lock depending on
> /dev/random.
Which leads to the question how can we get back tot he 2.4 behavior
of freeing sighand_struct in do_exit?
At which point as soon as we free sighand_struct if we are the last
to dying thread notify de_thread and everything works.
There are only two uses of sighand->siglock that I can see in
release_task: __ptrace_unlink and __exit_signal.
For what __ptrace_unlink is doing we should just be able to skip
acquiring of siglock if PF_EXITING is set.
__exit_signal is a little more interesting but half of what it is
doing looks like it was pulled out of do_exit and just needs to
be put back.
Which probably adds up to 4 or 5 small carefully written patches to sort
out that part of the exit path, but I think it leads to a very simple
and straight forward result. With the only side effect that we
can exec a process and still have a debugger reaping zombie threads.
Oleg does that sound reasonable to you?
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-30 8:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <20170224160354.GA845@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <87shmv6ufl.fsf@xmission.com>
[not found] ` <20170303173326.GA17899@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20170303173326.GA17899-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 18:23 ` [PATCH 0/2] fix the traced mt-exec deadlock Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 18:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87d1dyw5iw.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 20:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87tw7aunuh.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 20:11 ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-04 17:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-03-30 8:07 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
[not found] ` <8760ir192p.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-01 5:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] exec: Fixing ptrace'd mulit-threaded hang Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <878tnkpv8h.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-01 5:14 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] sighand: Count each thread group once in sighand_struct Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-01 5:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] exec: If possible don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87vaqooggs.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 15:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20170402153517.GA12637-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 18:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <877f32k5ew.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 18:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-03 21:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 15:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] exec: Fixing ptrace'd mulit-threaded hang Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:50 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 0/5] " Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <874ly6a0h1.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 22:51 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 1/5] ptrace: Don't wait in PTRACE_O_TRACEEXIT for exec or coredump Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:51 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 2/5] sighand: Count each thread group once in sighand_struct Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 3/5] clone: Disallown CLONE_THREAD with a shared sighand_struct Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87k2728lrp.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-05 16:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-05 17:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 18:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:53 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 4/5] exec: If possible don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:57 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 5/5] signal: Don't allow accessing signal_struct by old threads after exec Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87zify76z9.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-05 16:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20170405161812.GD14536-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-05 18:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87zifu90to.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-06 15:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 16:15 ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20170402161518.GC12637-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 21:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87inmmbjsq.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 18:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20170403183728.GB31390-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 22:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-03 22:49 ` scope of cred_guard_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-05 16:11 ` Kees Cook
2017-04-05 17:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 18:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <87fuhpjeco.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-06 15:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20170406155540.GC7444-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-07 22:07 ` Kees Cook
2017-09-04 3:19 ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Robert O'Callahan
[not found] ` <87tw7axlr0.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-04 16:54 ` [PATCH 0/2] fix the traced mt-exec deadlock Oleg Nesterov
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