From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@suse.cz>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mmap.2: MAP_FIXED updated documentation
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:19:21 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGXu5jJ289R9koVoHmxcvUWr6XHSZR2p0qq3WtpNyN-iNSvrNQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7c7a30e-a122-1bbf-88a2-3349d755c62d@gmail.com>
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
<mtk.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Kees,
>
> I'm late to the party, and only just caught up with the fuss :-).
No worries!
> On 12/14/2017 12:19 AM, Kees Cook wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 6:40 AM, Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@suse.cz> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>> You selected stupid name for a flag. Everyone and their dog agrees
>>>> with that. There's even consensus on better name (and everyone agrees
>>>> it is better than .._SAFE). Of course, we could have debate if it is
>>>> NOREPLACE or NOREMOVE or ... and that would be bikeshed. This was just
>>>> poor naming on your part.
>>>
>>> Well while everybody agrees that the name is so bad that basically
>>> anything else would be better, there does not seem to be consensus on
>>> which one to pick. I do understand that this frustrating and fruitless.
>>
>> Based on the earlier threads where I tried to end the bikeshedding, it
>> seemed like MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE was the least bad option.
>>
>>> So what do we do now, roll a dice to choose new name?
>>>
>>> Or do we ask BFDL[1] to choose the name?
>>
>> I'd like to hear feedback from Michael Kerrisk, as he's had to deal
>> with these kinds of choices in the past. I'm fine to ask Linus too. I
>> just want to get past the name since the feature is quite valuable.
>>
>> And if Michal doesn't want to touch this patch any more, I'm happy to
>> do the search/replace/resend. :P
>
> Something with the prefix MAP_FIXED_ seems to me obviously desirable,
> both to suggest that the function is similar, and also for easy
> grepping of the source code to look for instances of both.
> MAP_FIXED_SAFE didn't really bother me as a name, but
> MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE (or MAP_FIXED_NOCLOBBER) seem slightly more
> descriptive of what the flag actually does, so a little better.
Great, thanks!
Andrew, can you s/MAP_FIXED_SAFE/MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE/g in the series?
-Kees
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-18 20:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-13 9:25 [PATCH v2 0/2] mm: introduce MAP_FIXED_SAFE Michal Hocko
2017-12-13 9:25 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20171213092550.2774-2-mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-13 12:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-13 13:01 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-13 9:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs, elf: drop MAP_FIXED usage from elf_map Michal Hocko
2017-12-16 0:49 ` [2/2] " Andrei Vagin
2017-12-18 9:13 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-18 18:12 ` Andrei Vagin
2017-12-13 9:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] mmap.2: document new MAP_FIXED_SAFE flag Michal Hocko
2017-12-13 9:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] mmap.2: MAP_FIXED updated documentation Michal Hocko
2017-12-13 12:55 ` Pavel Machek
2017-12-13 13:03 ` Cyril Hrubis
2017-12-13 13:04 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-13 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
2017-12-13 13:16 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20171213131640.GJ25185-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-13 13:21 ` Pavel Machek
2017-12-13 13:35 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-13 14:40 ` Cyril Hrubis
2017-12-13 23:19 ` Kees Cook
[not found] ` <CAGXu5jLqE6cUxk-Girx6PG7upEzz8jmu1OH_3LVC26iJc2vTxQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-14 7:07 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-18 19:12 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2017-12-18 20:19 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2017-12-18 20:33 ` Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <CAGXu5jJ289R9koVoHmxcvUWr6XHSZR2p0qq3WtpNyN-iNSvrNQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-21 12:38 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-21 14:59 ` known bad patch in -mm tree was " Pavel Machek
2017-12-21 15:08 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-21 22:24 ` Andrew Morton
2017-12-22 0:06 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-14 2:52 ` Jann Horn
[not found] ` <CAG48ez0JZ3PVW3vgSXDmDijS+a_5bSX9qNuyggnsB6JTSkKngA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-14 5:28 ` John Hubbard
2017-12-14 23:06 ` John Hubbard
[not found] ` <b4fb7b3a-e53e-bf87-53c5-186751a14f4e-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-14 23:10 ` Jann Horn
[not found] ` <20171213092550.2774-1-mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-13 12:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] mm: introduce MAP_FIXED_SAFE Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-13 12:34 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-13 17:13 ` Kees Cook
2017-12-15 9:02 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-14 0:32 ` Andrew Morton
2017-12-14 1:35 ` David Goldblatt
2017-12-14 1:42 ` David Goldblatt
2017-12-14 12:44 ` Edward Napierala
2017-12-14 13:15 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-14 14:54 ` Edward Napierala
2017-12-19 12:40 ` David Laight
2017-12-19 12:46 ` Michal Hocko
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