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From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Khazhismel Kumykov <khazhy@google.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Bobrowski <repnop@google.com>,
	kernel@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/21] fsnotify: Allow events reported with an empty inode
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 22:26:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHC9VhT9SE6+kLYBh2d7CW5N6RCr=_ryK+ncGvqYJ51B7_egPA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxjnb0JmKVpMuEfa_NgHmLRchLz_3=9t2nepdS4QXJ=QVg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 6:45 AM Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:50 AM Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
> <krisman@collabora.com> wrote:
> >
> > Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 9:40 PM Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
> > > <krisman@collabora.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> writes:
> > >>
> > >> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:41 AM Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
> > >> > <krisman@collabora.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Some file system events (i.e. FS_ERROR) might not be associated with an
> > >> >> inode.  For these, it makes sense to associate them directly with the
> > >> >> super block of the file system they apply to.  This patch allows the
> > >> >> event to be reported with a NULL inode, by recovering the superblock
> > >> >> directly from the data field, if needed.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Signed-off-by: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Changes since v5:
> > >> >>   - add fsnotify_data_sb handle to retrieve sb from the data field. (jan)
> > >> >> ---
> > >> >>  fs/notify/fsnotify.c | 16 +++++++++++++---
> > >> >>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> diff --git a/fs/notify/fsnotify.c b/fs/notify/fsnotify.c
> > >> >> index 30d422b8c0fc..536db02cb26e 100644
> > >> >> --- a/fs/notify/fsnotify.c
> > >> >> +++ b/fs/notify/fsnotify.c
> > >> >> @@ -98,6 +98,14 @@ void fsnotify_sb_delete(struct super_block *sb)
> > >> >>         fsnotify_clear_marks_by_sb(sb);
> > >> >>  }
> > >> >>
> > >> >> +static struct super_block *fsnotify_data_sb(const void *data, int data_type)
> > >> >> +{
> > >> >> +       struct inode *inode = fsnotify_data_inode(data, data_type);
> > >> >> +       struct super_block *sb = inode ? inode->i_sb : NULL;
> > >> >> +
> > >> >> +       return sb;
> > >> >> +}
> > >> >> +
> > >> >>  /*
> > >> >>   * Given an inode, first check if we care what happens to our children.  Inotify
> > >> >>   * and dnotify both tell their parents about events.  If we care about any event
> > >> >> @@ -455,8 +463,10 @@ static void fsnotify_iter_next(struct fsnotify_iter_info *iter_info)
> > >> >>   *             @file_name is relative to
> > >> >>   * @file_name: optional file name associated with event
> > >> >>   * @inode:     optional inode associated with event -
> > >> >> - *             either @dir or @inode must be non-NULL.
> > >> >> - *             if both are non-NULL event may be reported to both.
> > >> >> + *             If @dir and @inode are NULL, @data must have a type that
> > >> >> + *             allows retrieving the file system associated with this
> > >> >
> > >> > Irrelevant comment. sb must always be available from @data.
> > >> >
> > >> >> + *             event.  if both are non-NULL event may be reported to
> > >> >> + *             both.
> > >> >>   * @cookie:    inotify rename cookie
> > >> >>   */
> > >> >>  int fsnotify(__u32 mask, const void *data, int data_type, struct inode *dir,
> > >> >> @@ -483,7 +493,7 @@ int fsnotify(__u32 mask, const void *data, int data_type, struct inode *dir,
> > >> >>                  */
> > >> >>                 parent = dir;
> > >> >>         }
> > >> >> -       sb = inode->i_sb;
> > >> >> +       sb = inode ? inode->i_sb : fsnotify_data_sb(data, data_type);
> > >> >
> > >> >         const struct path *path = fsnotify_data_path(data, data_type);
> > >> > +       const struct super_block *sb = fsnotify_data_sb(data, data_type);
> > >> >
> > >> > All the games with @data @inode and @dir args are irrelevant to this.
> > >> > sb should always be available from @data and it does not matter
> > >> > if fsnotify_data_inode() is the same as @inode, @dir or neither.
> > >> > All those inodes are anyway on the same sb.
> > >>
> > >> Hi Amir,
> > >>
> > >> I think this is actually necessary.  I could identify at least one event
> > >> (FS_CREATE | FS_ISDIR) where fsnotify is invoked with a NULL data field.
> > >> In that case, fsnotify_dirent is called with a negative dentry from
> > >> vfs_mkdir().  I'm not sure why exactly the dentry is negative after the
> > >
> > > That doesn't sound right at all.
> > > Are you sure about this?
> > > Which filesystem was this mkdir called on?
> >
> > You should be able to reproduce it on top of mainline if you pick only this
> > patch and do the change you suggested:
> >
> >  -       sb = inode->i_sb;
> >  +       sb = fsnotify_data_sb(data, data_type);
> >
> > And then boot a Debian stable with systemd.  The notification happens on
> > the cgroup pseudo-filesystem (/sys/fs/cgroup), which is being monitored
> > by systemd itself.  The event that arrives with a NULL data is telling the
> > directory /sys/fs/cgroup/*/ about the creation of directory
> > `init.scope`.
> >
> > The change above triggers the following null dereference of struct
> > super_block, since data is NULL.
> >
> > I will keep looking but you might be able to answer it immediately...
>
> Yes, I see what is going on.
>
> cgroupfs is a sort of kernfs and kernfs_iop_mkdir() does not instantiate
> the negative dentry. Instead, kernfs_dop_revalidate() always invalidates
> negative dentries to force re-lookup to find the inode.
>
> Documentation/filesystems/vfs.rst says on create() and friends:
> "...you will probably call d_instantiate() with the dentry and the
>   newly created inode..."
>
> So this behavior seems legit.
> Meaning that we have made a wrong assumption in fsnotify_create()
> and fsnotify_mkdir().
> Please note the comment above fsnotify_link() which anticipates
> negative dentries.
>
> I've audited the fsnotify backends and it seems that the
> WARN_ON(!inode) in kernel/audit_* is the only immediate implication
> of negative dentry with FS_CREATE.
> I am the one who added these WARN_ON(), so I will remove them.
> I think that missing inode in an FS_CREATE event really breaks
> audit on kernfs, but not sure if that is a valid use case (Paul?).

While it is tempting to ignore kernfs from an audit filesystem watch
perspective, I can see admins potentially wanting to watch
kernfs/cgroupfs/other-config-pseudofs to detect who is potentially
playing with the system config.  Arguably the most important config
changes would already be audited if they were security relevant, but I
could also see an admin wanting to watch for *any* changes so it's
probably best not to rule out a kernfs based watch right now.

I'm sure I'm missing some details, but from what I gather from the
portion of the thread that I'm seeing, it looks like the audit issue
lies in audit_mark_handle_event() and audit_watch_handle_event().  In
both cases it looks like the functions are at least safe with a NULL
inode pointer, even with the WARN_ON() removed; the problem being that
the mark and watch will not be updated with the device and inode
number which means the audit filters based on those marks/watches will
not trigger.  Is that about right or did I read the thread and code a
bit too quickly?

Working under the assumption that the above is close enough to
correct, that is a bit of a problem as it means audit can't
effectively watch kernfs based filesystems, although it sounds like it
wasn't really working properly to begin with, yes?  Before I start
thinking too hard about this, does anyone already have a great idea to
fix this that they want to share?

-- 
paul moore
www.paul-moore.com

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-27  2:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-12 21:39 [PATCH v6 00/21] File system wide monitoring Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 01/21] fsnotify: Don't insert unmergeable events in hashtable Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 02/21] fanotify: Fold event size calculation to its own function Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 03/21] fanotify: Split fsid check from other fid mode checks Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 04/21] fsnotify: Reserve mark flag bits for backends Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  7:28   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 13:15     ` Jan Kara
2021-08-23 14:36       ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 05/21] fanotify: Split superblock marks out to a new cache Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-16 13:18   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 06/21] inotify: Don't force FS_IN_IGNORED Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 07/21] fsnotify: Add helper to detect overflow_event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 08/21] fsnotify: Add wrapper around fsnotify_add_event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 09/21] fsnotify: Allow events reported with an empty inode Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  7:58   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-25 18:40     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-25 19:45       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-25 21:50         ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-26 10:44           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-27  2:26             ` Paul Moore [this message]
2021-08-12 21:39 ` [PATCH v6 10/21] fsnotify: Support FS_ERROR event type Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  7:48   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 13:23   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 11/21] fanotify: Allow file handle encoding for unhashed events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  7:59   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 12/21] fanotify: Encode invalid file handle when no inode is provided Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  8:27   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 14:06     ` Jan Kara
2021-08-16 15:54       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 16:11         ` Jan Kara
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 13/21] fanotify: Require fid_mode for any non-fd event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  8:28   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 14/21] fanotify: Reserve UAPI bits for FAN_FS_ERROR Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  8:29   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 15/21] fanotify: Preallocate per superblock mark error event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  8:40   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 15:57   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-27 18:18     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-09-02 21:24       ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-09-03  4:16         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-09-15 10:31           ` Jan Kara
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 16/21] fanotify: Handle FAN_FS_ERROR events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  9:35   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 17/21] fanotify: Report fid info for file related file system errors Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  9:00   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-13  9:03     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 16:18   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 18/21] fanotify: Emit generic error info type for error event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-13  8:47   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-16 16:23   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-16 21:41   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-08-17  9:05     ` Jan Kara
2021-08-17 10:08       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-18  0:16         ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-08-18  3:24           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-18  9:58             ` Jan Kara
2021-08-19  3:58               ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-08-18  0:10       ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-08-24 16:53       ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-25  4:09         ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 19/21] ext4: Send notifications on error Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-16 16:26   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 20/21] samples: Add fs error monitoring example Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-18 13:02   ` Jan Kara
2021-08-23 14:49     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-12 21:40 ` [PATCH v6 21/21] docs: Document the FAN_FS_ERROR event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-08-16 16:40   ` Jan Kara

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