From: David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: new ...at() flag: AT_NO_JUMPS
Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 09:50:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHse=S9=Qpjcex+1O0n1r_pnyLZPUq+K03thbAozG61umEH9Ug@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170505003030.GM29622@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 07:36:52PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
>
>> Oh, nice!
>>
>> It looks like this is somewhat similar to the old O_BENEATH proposal,
>> but because the intentions behind the proposals are different
>> (application sandboxing versus permitting an application to restrict its
>> own filesystem accesses), the semantics differ: AT_NO_JUMPS
>> doesn't prevent starting the path with "/", but does prevent mountpoint
>> traversal. Is that correct?
>
> It prevents both, actually - I missed that in description, but this
> if (unlikely(nd->flags & LOOKUP_NO_JUMPS))
> return -ELOOP;
> in nd_jump_root() affects absolute pathnames same way as it affects
> absolute symlinks.
>
> It's not quite O_BENEATH, and IMO it's saner that way - a/b/c/../d is
> bloody well allowed, and so are relative symlinks that do not lead out of
> the subtree. If somebody has a good argument in favour of flat-out
> ban on .. (_other_ than "other guys do it that way, and it doesn't need
> to make sense 'cuz security!!1!!!", please), I'd be glad to hear it.
BTW, FreeBSD head now allows .. if it stays in subtree:
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=308212
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-04-29 22:04 new ...at() flag: AT_NO_JUMPS Al Viro
[not found] ` <20170429220414.GT29622-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-29 23:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrXhOhG0tRDDOROwT9ghvQvKziM2PBN=CX5Soa2m7=0cFw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-29 23:25 ` Al Viro
2017-04-30 1:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <20170429232504.GU29622-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-30 4:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <20170430043822.GE27790-PfSpb0PWhxZc2C7mugBRk2EX/6BAtgUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-30 16:10 ` Al Viro
2017-05-01 4:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrX0dx3d6OQQ+1GJ_xgSz3iNVeRn+8o6b-+3f7awVOWdQg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-01 5:15 ` Al Viro
2017-05-01 17:36 ` Jann Horn
2017-05-01 19:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CAG48ez0wccvQ5i+XN_Q_yA9_ZwSaGb-W+zky0KQb_GU=9G+MSw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05 0:30 ` Al Viro
2017-05-05 0:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-05-05 1:06 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20170505003030.GM29622-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05 1:27 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <CA+55aFyOKM7DW7+0sdDFKdZFXgptb5r1id9=Wvhd8AgSP7qjwQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05 3:00 ` Al Viro
2017-05-05 4:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-05 4:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-05-05 2:47 ` Jann Horn
2017-05-05 3:46 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <CA+55aFy1SokNNUgxBnFLdA1PRyeG13BqyYNg5xVrW-tNGqh2Bg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05 4:39 ` Al Viro
2017-05-05 4:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrVQ2fwDZOsGSoLyRb6Qjp4nszfDjOPSYi0kzqt23Aw1NA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05 20:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-05 20:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <8737cj6oao.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-08 19:34 ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-05-18 8:50 ` David Drysdale [this message]
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