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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: siginfo_t ABI break on sparc64 from si_addr_lsb move 3y ago
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 22:48:40 +0200
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a0+uKYwL1NhY6Hvtieghba2hKYGD6hcKx5n8=4Gtt+pHA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m11rat9f85.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 7:23 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:

> > Which option do you prefer? Are there better options?
>
> Personally the most important thing to have is a single definition
> shared by all architectures so that we consolidate testing.
>
> A little piece of me cries a little whenever I see how badly we
> implemented the POSIX design.  As specified by POSIX the fields can be
> place in siginfo such that 32bit and 64bit share a common definition.
> Unfortunately we did not addpadding after si_addr on 32bit to
> accommodate a 64bit si_addr.
>
> I find it unfortunate that we are adding yet another definition that
> requires translation between 32bit and 64bit, but I am glad
> that at least the translation is not architecture specific.  That common
> definition is what has allowed this potential issue to be caught
> and that makes me very happy to see.
>
> Let's go with Option 3.
>
> Confirm BUS_MCEERR_AR, BUS_MCEERR_AO, SEGV_BNDERR, SEGV_PKUERR are not
> in use on any architecture that defines __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO, and then fixup
> the userspace definitions of these fields.
>
> To the kernel I would add some BUILD_BUG_ON's to whatever the best
> maintained architecture (sparc64?) that implements __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO just
> to confirm we don't create future regressions by accident.
>
> I did a quick search and the architectures that define __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO
> are sparc, mips, and alpha.  All have 64bit implementations.

I think you (slightly) misread: mips has "#undef __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO", not
"#define __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO". This means it's only sparc and
alpha.

I can see that the alpha instance was added to the kernel during linux-2.5,
but never made it into the glibc or uclibc copy of the struct definition, and
musl doesn't support alpha or sparc. Debian codesearch only turns up
sparc (and BSD) references to si_trapno.

> I did a quick search and the architectures that define __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO
> are sparc, mips, and alpha.  All have 64bit implementations.  A further
> quick search shows that none of those architectures have faults that
> use BUS_MCEERR_AR, BUS_MCEERR_AO, SEGV_BNDERR, SEGV_PKUERR, nor do
> they appear to use mm/memory-failure.c
>
> So it doesn't look like we have an ABI regression to fix.

Even better!

So if sparc is the only user of _trapno and it uses none of the later
fields in _sigfault, I wonder if we could take even more liberty at
trying to have a slightly saner definition. Can you think of anything that
might break if we put _trapno inside of the union along with _perf
and _addr_lsb?

I suppose in theory sparc64 or alpha might start using the other
fields in the future, and an application might be compiled against
mismatched headers, but that is unlikely and is already broken
with the current headers.

       Arnd

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Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-29  7:48 Marco Elver
2021-04-29 17:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-29 18:46   ` Marco Elver
2021-04-29 20:48   ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2021-04-30 17:08     ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 19:07       ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 20:15         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 23:50           ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 22:49         ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] signal: Move si_trapno into the _si_fault union Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 22:50           ` [PATCH 1/3] siginfo: Move si_trapno inside the union inside _si_fault Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 10:31             ` Marco Elver
2021-05-02 18:27               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 22:54           ` [PATCH 2/3] signal: Implement SIL_FAULT_TRAPNO Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 23:19             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 10:33             ` Marco Elver
2021-05-02 18:24               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 22:55           ` [PATCH 3/3] signal: Use dedicated helpers to send signals with si_trapno set Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 10:33             ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 22:56           ` [PATCH 4/3] signal: Remove __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 23:23           ` Is perf_sigtrap synchronous? Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01  0:28             ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 23:42           ` [PATCH 5/3] signal: Rename SIL_PERF_EVENT SIL_FAULT_PERF_EVENT for consistency Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 10:35             ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 23:43           ` [PATCH 6/3] signal: Factor force_sig_perf out of perf_sigtrap Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 10:45             ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 23:43           ` [PATCH 7/3] signal: Deliver all of the perf_data in si_perf Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 10:47             ` Marco Elver
2021-05-02 18:39               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-02 19:13                 ` Marco Elver
2021-05-03 12:44                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-03 19:38                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-03 19:53                     ` Marco Elver
2021-04-30 23:47           ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] signal: Move si_trapno into the _si_fault union Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01  0:37             ` Marco Elver
2021-05-01 15:16               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-01 16:24                 ` Marco Elver
2021-05-03 20:25                   ` [PATCH 00/12] signal: sort out si_trapno and si_perf Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-03 20:38                     ` [PATCH 01/12] sparc64: Add compile-time asserts for siginfo_t offsets Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 02/12] arm: " Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 03/12] arm64: " Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 04/12] siginfo: Move si_trapno inside the union inside _si_fault Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 05/12] signal: Implement SIL_FAULT_TRAPNO Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 06/12] signal: Use dedicated helpers to send signals with si_trapno set Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 07/12] signal: Remove __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 08/12] signal: Rename SIL_PERF_EVENT SIL_FAULT_PERF_EVENT for consistency Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 09/12] signal: Factor force_sig_perf out of perf_sigtrap Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 10/12] signal: Redefine signinfo so 64bit fields are possible Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 21:04                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-03 22:47                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-04  3:42                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-04  4:03                               ` Peter Collingbourne
2021-05-04  9:52                                 ` Marco Elver
2021-05-04 16:16                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 11/12] signal: Deliver all of the siginfo perf data in _perf Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-03 20:38                       ` [PATCH 12/12] signalfd: Remove SIL_FAULT_PERF_EVENT fields from signalfd_siginfo Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-04 21:13                     ` [PATCH v3 00/12] signal: sort out si_trapno and si_perf Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-04 22:05                       ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:12                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-05 14:10                       ` [PATCH v3 01/12] sparc64: Add compile-time asserts for siginfo_t offsets Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 02/12] arm: " Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 03/12] arm64: " Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 04/12] signal: Verify the alignment and size of siginfo_t Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:24                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 05/12] siginfo: Move si_trapno inside the union inside _si_fault Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 06/12] signal: Implement SIL_FAULT_TRAPNO Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:25                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 07/12] signal: Use dedicated helpers to send signals with si_trapno set Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:25                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 08/12] signal: Remove __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:25                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 09/12] signal: Rename SIL_PERF_EVENT SIL_FAULT_PERF_EVENT for consistency Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:26                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:10                         ` [PATCH v3 10/12] signal: Factor force_sig_perf out of perf_sigtrap Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:26                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-06 10:54                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-05 14:11                         ` [PATCH v3 11/12] signal: Deliver all of the siginfo perf data in _perf Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:27                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 14:11                         ` [PATCH v3 12/12] signalfd: Remove SIL_FAULT_PERF_EVENT fields from signalfd_siginfo Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-05 17:27                           ` Marco Elver
2021-05-05 17:28                       ` [PATCH v3 00/12] signal: sort out si_trapno and si_perf Marco Elver
2021-05-06  7:00                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-05-06 10:43                         ` Marco Elver
2021-05-06 15:28                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-06 15:14                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-14  4:54                       ` [GIT PULL] siginfo: ABI fixes for v5.13-rc2 Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-14 19:14                         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-14 21:15                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-14 22:38                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-16  7:40                         ` Ingo Molnar
2021-05-17 15:29                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-21 14:59                         ` [GIT PULL] siginfo: ABI fixes for v5.13-rc3 Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-21 16:34                           ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-05-17 19:56                       ` [PATCH v4 0/5] siginfo: ABI fixes for TRAP_PERF Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-17 19:57                         ` [PATCH v4 1/5] siginfo: Move si_trapno inside the union inside _si_fault Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-17 19:57                           ` [PATCH v4 2/5] signal: Implement SIL_FAULT_TRAPNO Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-17 19:57                           ` [PATCH v4 3/5] signal: Factor force_sig_perf out of perf_sigtrap Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-17 19:57                           ` [PATCH v4 4/5] signal: Deliver all of the siginfo perf data in _perf Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-17 19:57                           ` [PATCH v4 5/5] signalfd: Remove SIL_PERF_EVENT fields from signalfd_siginfo Eric W. Beiderman
2021-05-17 20:53                         ` [PATCH v4 0/5] siginfo: ABI fixes for TRAP_PERF Marco Elver
2021-05-18  3:46                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-05-18  6:44                             ` Marco Elver
2021-05-01 16:26               ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] signal: Move si_trapno into the _si_fault union Marco Elver
2021-07-15 18:09           ` [PATCH 0/6] Final si_trapno bits Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-15 18:11             ` [PATCH 1/6] sparc64: Add compile-time asserts for siginfo_t offsets Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-15 18:11             ` [PATCH 2/6] arm: " Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-15 18:11             ` [PATCH 3/6] arm64: " Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-15 18:12             ` [PATCH 4/6] signal/sparc: si_trapno is only used with SIGILL ILL_ILLTRP Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-16 11:49               ` Marco Elver
2021-07-15 18:12             ` [PATCH 5/6] signal/alpha: si_trapno is only used with SIGFPE and SIGTRAP TRAP_UNK Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-16 11:48               ` Marco Elver
2021-07-15 18:13             ` [PATCH 6/6] signal: Remove the generic __ARCH_SI_TRAPNO support Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-16 11:48               ` Marco Elver
2021-07-16 11:50             ` [PATCH 0/6] Final si_trapno bits Marco Elver
2021-07-16 16:08               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-16 17:15                 ` Marco Elver
2021-07-16 16:06             ` [PATCH 7/7] signal: Verify the alignment and size of siginfo_t Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-16 16:07             ` [PATCH 8/6] signal: Rename SIL_PERF_EVENT SIL_FAULT_PERF_EVENT for consistency Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-30 20:43       ` siginfo_t ABI break on sparc64 from si_addr_lsb move 3y ago Arnd Bergmann

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