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From: Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 22/41] mm/mmap: Add shadow stack pages to memory accounting
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 10:28:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKC1njR6WEuXbghupaX6R8LPSVP69yofYNb5+tEp5huHvsroCw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <236ae66c-fafb-80e9-d58b-6b18a22071c1@intel.com>

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 10:16 AM Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On 3/17/23 10:12, Deepak Gupta wrote:
> >>  /*
> >> - * Stack area - automatically grows in one direction
> >> + * Stack area
> >>   *
> >> - * VM_GROWSUP / VM_GROWSDOWN VMAs are always private anonymous:
> >> - * do_mmap() forbids all other combinations.
> >> + * VM_GROWSUP, VM_GROWSDOWN VMAs are always private
> >> + * anonymous. do_mmap() forbids all other combinations.
> >>   */
> >>  static inline bool is_stack_mapping(vm_flags_t flags)
> >>  {
> >> -       return (flags & VM_STACK) == VM_STACK;
> >> +       return ((flags & VM_STACK) == VM_STACK) || (flags & VM_SHADOW_STACK);
> > Same comment here. `VM_SHADOW_STACK` is an x86 specific way of
> > encoding a shadow stack.
> > Instead let's have a proxy here which allows architectures to have
> > their own encodings to represent a shadow stack.
>
> This doesn't _preclude_ another architecture from coming along and doing
> that, right?  I'd just prefer that shadow stack architecture #2 comes
> along and refactors this in precisely the way _they_ need it.

There are two issues here
 - Encoding of shadow stack: Another arch can choose different encoding.
   And yes, another architecture can come in and re-factor it. But so
much thought and work has been given to x86 implementation to keep
   shadow stack to not impact arch agnostic parts of the kernel. So
why creep it in here.

- VM_SHADOW_STACK is coming out of the VM_HIGH_ARCH_XX bit position
which makes it arch specific.

If re-factor takes care then I would say the 2nd issue still exists,
it's better to keep it away from arch agnostic code.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-17 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 159+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-27 22:29 [PATCH v7 00/41] Shadow stacks for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 01/41] Documentation/x86: Add CET shadow stack description Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-01 14:21   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-01 14:38     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-01 18:07     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-01 18:32       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-02 16:34         ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-03-03 22:35           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-06 16:20             ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-03-06 16:31               ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-06 18:08                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-07 13:03                   ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-03-07 14:00                     ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-07 16:14                       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-06 18:05               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-06 20:31                 ` Liang, Kan
2023-03-02 16:14       ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-03-02 21:17         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-03 16:30           ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-03-03 16:57             ` H.J. Lu
2023-03-03 17:39               ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-03-03 17:50                 ` H.J. Lu
2023-03-03 17:41             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 02/41] x86/shstk: Add Kconfig option for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 03/41] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPU feature flags for shadow stacks Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 04/41] x86/cpufeatures: Enable CET CR4 bit for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 05/41] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce CET MSR and XSAVES supervisor states Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 06/41] x86/fpu: Add helper for modifying xstate Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 07/41] x86: Move control protection handler to separate file Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-01 15:38   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 08/41] x86/shstk: Add user control-protection fault handler Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-01 18:06   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-01 18:14     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-01 18:37       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 09/41] x86/mm: Remove _PAGE_DIRTY from kernel RO pages Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 10/41] x86/mm: Move pmd_write(), pud_write() up in the file Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 11/41] mm: Introduce pte_mkwrite_kernel() Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 12/41] s390/mm: Introduce pmd_mkwrite_kernel() Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 13/41] mm: Make pte_mkwrite() take a VMA Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-01  7:03   ` Christophe Leroy
2023-03-01  8:16     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-02 12:19   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 14/41] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_SAVED_DIRTY Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-02 12:48   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-02 17:01     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 15/41] x86/mm: Update ptep/pmdp_set_wrprotect() for _PAGE_SAVED_DIRTY Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 16/41] x86/mm: Start actually marking _PAGE_SAVED_DIRTY Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 17/41] mm: Move VM_UFFD_MINOR_BIT from 37 to 38 Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 18/41] mm: Introduce VM_SHADOW_STACK for shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 19/41] x86/mm: Check shadow stack page fault errors Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-03 14:00   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-03 14:39     ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 20/41] x86/mm: Teach pte_mkwrite() about stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-03 15:37   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 21/41] mm: Add guard pages around a shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-06  8:08   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-07  1:29     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-07 10:32       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-07 10:44         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-08 22:48           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-17 17:09   ` Deepak Gupta
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 22/41] mm/mmap: Add shadow stack pages to memory accounting Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-06 13:01   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-06 18:11     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-06 18:16       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-07 10:42   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-17 17:12   ` Deepak Gupta
2023-03-17 17:16     ` Dave Hansen
2023-03-17 17:28       ` Deepak Gupta [this message]
2023-03-17 17:42         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-17 19:26           ` Deepak Gupta
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 23/41] mm: Re-introduce vm_flags to do_mmap() Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 24/41] mm: Don't allow write GUPs to shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-06 13:10   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-06 18:15     ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-03-06 18:33       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-06 18:57         ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-03-07  1:47           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-17 17:05   ` Deepak Gupta
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 25/41] x86/mm: Introduce MAP_ABOVE4G Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-06 18:09   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-07  1:10     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 26/41] mm: Warn on shadow stack memory in wrong vma Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-08  8:53   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-08 23:36     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 27/41] x86/mm: Warn if create Write=0,Dirty=1 with raw prot Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:54   ` Kees Cook
2023-03-08  9:23   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-08 23:35     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 28/41] x86: Introduce userspace API for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-08 10:27   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-08 23:32     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 12:57       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-09 16:56         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 23:51           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-10  1:13             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-10  2:03               ` H.J. Lu
2023-03-10 20:00                 ` H.J. Lu
2023-03-10 20:27                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-10 20:43                     ` H.J. Lu
2023-03-10 21:01                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-10 11:40               ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 29/41] x86/shstk: Add user-mode shadow stack support Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 30/41] x86/shstk: Handle thread shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-02 17:34   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-02 21:48     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-08 15:26   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-08 20:03     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 14:12       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-09 16:59         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 17:04           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-09 20:29             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 31/41] x86/shstk: Introduce routines modifying shstk Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-09 16:48   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-09 17:03     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 17:22       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 32/41] x86/shstk: Handle signals for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-09 17:02   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-09 17:16     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 23:35       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 33/41] x86/shstk: Introduce map_shadow_stack syscall Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-02 17:22   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-02 21:21     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 18:55     ` Deepak Gupta
2023-03-09 19:39       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 21:08         ` Deepak Gupta
2023-03-10  0:14           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-10 21:00             ` Deepak Gupta
2023-03-10 21:43               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-16 20:07                 ` Deepak Gupta
2023-03-14  7:19       ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-16 19:30         ` Deepak Gupta
2023-03-20 11:35           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-10 16:11   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-10 17:12     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-10 20:05       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-10 20:19         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-10 20:26           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 34/41] x86/shstk: Support WRSS for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-10 16:44   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-10 17:16     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 35/41] x86: Expose thread features in /proc/$PID/status Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 36/41] x86/shstk: Wire in shadow stack interface Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 37/41] selftests/x86: Add shadow stack test Rick Edgecombe
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 38/41] x86/fpu: Add helper for initing features Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-11 12:54   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-13  2:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-13 11:03       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-13 16:10         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-13 17:10           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-13 23:31             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 39/41] x86: Add PTRACE interface for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-11 15:06   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-13  2:53     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 40/41] x86/shstk: Add ARCH_SHSTK_UNLOCK Rick Edgecombe
2023-03-11 15:11   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-13  3:04     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-13 11:05       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-27 22:29 ` [PATCH v7 41/41] x86/shstk: Add ARCH_SHSTK_STATUS Rick Edgecombe

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