From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47077C433FE for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 08:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230352AbiJDIpM (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Oct 2022 04:45:12 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:37098 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230309AbiJDIov (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Oct 2022 04:44:51 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4641:c500::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 437ECBF53; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 01:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE4C9612DC; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 08:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6EE40C433D6; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 08:44:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1664873080; bh=FLxJujkrEz8c6n9mzp1mDrchZzbrKurHkU3rXpxIpvI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=MNzz79AB2yicRFSXFG0MXGmNNYDmFVrbVKIiKFHEOY/gF8rAr+98YrhPRTyDZQp94 B0IgHfkpfkOXUXPQguDzENFcNoTP2rzEtjlC5g5ZtqrIVfp06wURtskr6E9zM3akFy sArcwFJ8JUwIJ1t4uo1gZ7s+m2JNm5fphzyG7szfX1G7a07hmtJ9UAYJ004z4tTl39 BTyaA93JiXNKYzXCWWXBgiWD3oEQp081Z2ITDXwXbDBL9fDT0BEUoKcEz9za7G768E fY8K+3hlj6OSojkjGw2n7lKYynIIcdxERpgICaqjzHKt6tPnNzDRb9NxqQwS57u0h/ 97gkm22qL4CKg== Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 11:44:16 +0300 From: Mike Rapoport To: Kees Cook Cc: Rick Edgecombe , x86@kernel.org, "H . Peter Anvin" , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann , Andy Lutomirski , Balbir Singh , Borislav Petkov , Cyrill Gorcunov , Dave Hansen , Eugene Syromiatnikov , Florian Weimer , "H . J . Lu" , Jann Horn , Jonathan Corbet , Mike Kravetz , Nadav Amit , Oleg Nesterov , Pavel Machek , Peter Zijlstra , Randy Dunlap , "Ravi V . Shankar" , Weijiang Yang , "Kirill A . Shutemov" , joao.moreira@intel.com, John Allen , kcc@google.com, eranian@google.com, jamorris@linux.microsoft.com, dethoma@microsoft.com, Yu-cheng Yu Subject: Re: [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 37/39] x86/cet: Add PTRACE interface for CET Message-ID: References: <20220929222936.14584-1-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> <20220929222936.14584-38-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> <202210031658.EEC88324FD@keescook> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202210031658.EEC88324FD@keescook> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-api@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Oct 03, 2022 at 04:59:43PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 03:29:34PM -0700, Rick Edgecombe wrote: > > From: Yu-cheng Yu > > > > Some applications (like GDB and CRIU) would like to tweak CET state via > > Eee. Does GDB really need this? Can we make this whole thing > CONFIG-depend on CRIU? GDB, at least its Intel fork uses this. I don't see how they can jump between frames without an ability to modify shadow stack contents. Last I looked they used NT_X86_CET to update SSP and ptrace(POKEDATA) to write to the shadow stack. > -- > Kees Cook -- Sincerely yours, Mike.