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From: Stas Sergeev <stsp-cmBhpYW9OiY@public.gmane.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] signals/sigaltstack: If SS_AUTODISARM, bypass on_sig_stack
Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 14:18:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a8043a6e-764f-1fb1-d580-e21696260b94@list.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrV+gmXn-kTJmKBDPM8HaRTcvp+eGmeF7mOES6bCje2AGQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

14.05.2016 07:18, Andy Lutomirski пишет:
> On May 8, 2016 7:05 PM, "Stas Sergeev" <stsp-cmBhpYW9OiY@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> 09.05.2016 04:32, Andy Lutomirski пишет:
>>
>>> On May 7, 2016 7:38 AM, "Stas Sergeev" <stsp-cmBhpYW9OiY@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>> 03.05.2016 20:31, Andy Lutomirski пишет:
>>>>
>>>>> If a signal stack is set up with SS_AUTODISARM, then the kernel
>>>>> inherently avoids incorrectly resetting the signal stack if signals
>>>>> recurse: the signal stack will be reset on the first signal
>>>>> delivery.  This means that we don't need check the stack pointer
>>>>> when delivering signals if SS_AUTODISARM is set.
>>>>>
>>>>> This will make segmented x86 programs more robust: currently there's
>>>>> a hole that could be triggered if ESP/RSP appears to point to the
>>>>> signal stack but actually doesn't due to a nonzero SS base.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Stas Sergeev <stsp-cmBhpYW9OiY@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Al Viro <viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar-gVpy/LI/lHzQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Amanieu d'Antras <amanieu-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Brian Gerst <brgerst-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: H. Peter Anvin <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Jason Low <jason.low2-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Josh Triplett <josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov-XoJtRXgx1JseBXzfvpsJ4g@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer-96lFi9zoCfxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Paul Moore <pmoore-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Sasha Levin <sasha.levin-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Shuah Khan <shuahkh-JPH+aEBZ4P+UEJcrhfAQsw@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> Cc: linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
>>>>> Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Andy Lutomirski <luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>     include/linux/sched.h | 12 ++++++++++++
>>>>>     1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h
>>>>> index 2950c5cd3005..8f03a93348b9 100644
>>>>> --- a/include/linux/sched.h
>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/sched.h
>>>>> @@ -2576,6 +2576,18 @@ static inline int kill_cad_pid(int sig, int priv)
>>>>>      */
>>>>>     static inline int on_sig_stack(unsigned long sp)
>>>>>     {
>>>>> +       /*
>>>>> +        * If the signal stack is AUTODISARM then, by construction, we
>>>>> +        * can't be on the signal stack unless user code deliberately set
>>>>> +        * SS_AUTODISARM when we were already on the it.
>>>> "on the it" -> "on it".
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I am a bit puzzled with this patch.
>>>> You say "unless user code deliberately set
>>>>
>>>> SS_AUTODISARM when we were already on the it"
>>>> so what happens in case it actually does?
>>>>
>>> Stack corruption.  Don't do that.
>> Only after your change, I have to admit. :)
>>
>>
>>>> Without your patch: if user sets up the same sas - no stack switch.
>>>> if user sets up different sas - stack switch on nested signal.
>>>>
>>>> With your patch: stack switch in any case, so if user
>>>> set up same sas - stack corruption by nested signal.
>>>>
>>>> Or am I missing the intention?
>>> The intention is to make everything completely explicit.  With
>>> SS_AUTODISARM, the kernel knows directly whether you're on the signal
>>> stack, and there should be no need to look at sp.  If you set
>>> SS_AUTODISARM and get a signal, the signal stack gets disarmed.  If
>>> you take a nested signal, it's delivered normally.  When you return
>>> all the way out, the signal stack is re-armed.
>>>
>>> For DOSEMU, this means that no 16-bit register state can possibly
>>> cause a signal to be delivered wrong, because the register state when
>>> a signal is raised won't affect delivery, which seems like a good
>>> thing to me.
>> Yes, but doesn't affect dosemu1 which doesn't use SS_AUTODISARM.
>> So IMHO the SS check should still be added, even if not for dosemu2.
>>
>>
>>> If this behavior would be problematic for you, can you explain why?
>> Only theoretically: if someone sets SS_AUTODISARM inside a
>> sighandler. Since this doesn't give EPERM, I wouldn't deliberately
>> make it a broken scenario (esp if it wasn't before the particular change).
>> Ideally it would give EPERM, but we can't, so doesn't matter much.
>> I just wanted to warn about the possible regression.
> I suppose we could return an error if you are on the sigstack when
> setting SS_AUTODISARM, although I was hoping to avoid yet more special
> cases.
Hmm.
How about extending the generic check then?
Currently it is roughly:
if (on_sig_stack(sp)) return -EPERM;

and we could do:
if (on_sig_stack(sp) || on_new_sas(new_sas, sp)) return -EPERM;

Looks like it will close the potential hole opened by your commit
without introducing the special case for SS_AUTODISARM.
What do you think?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-14 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1462296606.git.luto@kernel.org>
2016-05-03 17:31 ` [PATCH 1/4] signals/sigaltstack: If SS_AUTODISARM, bypass on_sig_stack Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]   ` <c46bee4654ca9e68c498462fd11746e2bd0d98c8.1462296606.git.luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-04  6:32     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]       ` <20160504063233.GB9499-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-04 23:02         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-07 14:37     ` Stas Sergeev
2016-05-09  1:32       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrX4AMCUkYMXe6-RoHTHQ=bpunM5keHSxMg=fEVtb1EmqA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-09  2:04           ` Stas Sergeev
     [not found]             ` <97f8e27a-019c-a5d4-2d2c-c2a9627cf23d-cmBhpYW9OiY@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-14  4:18               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                 ` <CALCETrV+gmXn-kTJmKBDPM8HaRTcvp+eGmeF7mOES6bCje2AGQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-14 11:18                   ` Stas Sergeev [this message]
2016-05-14 16:35                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-03 17:31 ` [PATCH 2/4] selftests/sigaltstack: Fix the sas test on old kernels Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]   ` <f3e739bf435beeaecbd5f038f1359d2eac6d1e63.1462296606.git.luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-07 15:02     ` Stas Sergeev
     [not found]       ` <abedee05-5671-7ba7-c256-41e61fb596cb-cmBhpYW9OiY@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-09  1:32         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-03 17:31 ` [PATCH 3/4] signals/sigaltstack: Report current flag bits in sigaltstack() Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]   ` <94b291ec9fd47741a9264851e316e158ded0b00d.1462296606.git.luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-04  6:33     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-05-03 17:31 ` [PATCH 4/4] signals/sigaltstack: Change SS_AUTODISARM to (1U << 31) Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]   ` <bb996508a600af14b406810c3d58fe0e0d0afe0d.1462296606.git.luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-07 15:16     ` Stas Sergeev

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