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From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@virtuozzo.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: introduce MADV_CLR_HUGEPAGE
Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 17:28:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ab5bbeb6-0c61-f505-f365-37ca43415696@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aec1376e-34b3-56ce-448e-7fbddcda448b@suse.cz>

On 05/24/2017 02:31 PM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 05/24/2017 12:39 PM, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>> Hm so the prctl does:
>>>
>>>                 if (arg2)
>>>                         me->mm->def_flags |= VM_NOHUGEPAGE;
>>>                 else
>>>                         me->mm->def_flags &= ~VM_NOHUGEPAGE;
>>>
>>> That's rather lazy implementation IMHO. Could we change it so the flag
>>> is stored elsewhere in the mm, and the code that decides to (not) use
>>> THP will check both the per-vma flag and the per-mm flag?
>>
>> I afraid I don't understand how that can help.
>> What we need is an ability to temporarily disable collapse of the pages in
>> VMAs that do not have VM_*HUGEPAGE flags set and that after we re-enable
>> THP, the vma->vm_flags for those VMAs will remain intact.
> 
> That's what I'm saying - instead of implementing the prctl flag via
> mm->def_flags (which gets permanently propagated to newly created vma's
> but e.g. doesn't affect already existing ones), it would be setting a
> flag somewhere in mm, which khugepaged (and page faults) would check in
> addition to the per-vma flags.

I do not insist, but this would make existing paths (checking for flags) be 
2 times slower -- from now on these would need to check two bits (vma flags
and mm flags) which are 100% in different cache lines.

What Mike is proposing is the way to fine-tune the existing vma flags. This
would keep current paths as fast (or slow ;) ) as they are now. All the
complexity would go to rare cases when someone needs to turn thp off for a
while and then turn it back on.

-- Pavel

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-24 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]         ` <a9e74c22-1a07-f49a-42b5-497fee85e9c9@suse.cz>
     [not found]           ` <20170524075043.GB3063@rapoport-lnx>
2017-05-24  7:58             ` [PATCH] mm: introduce MADV_CLR_HUGEPAGE Vlastimil Babka
2017-05-24 10:39               ` Mike Rapoport
2017-05-24 11:18                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-24 14:25                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2017-05-24 14:27                   ` Mike Rapoport
2017-05-24 15:22                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-05-30  7:44                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                       ` <20170530074408.GA7969-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-30 10:19                         ` Mike Rapoport
2017-05-30 10:39                           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                             ` <20170530103930.GB7969-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-30 14:04                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-05-30 14:39                                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                   ` <20170530143941.GK7969-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-30 14:56                                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                       ` <20170530145632.GL7969-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-30 16:06                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-05-31  6:30                                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-05-31  8:24                                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-31  9:27                                               ` Mike Rapoport
2017-05-31 10:24                                                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                               ` <20170531082414.GB27783-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-31 10:22                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-01 11:00                                               ` Mike Rapoport
2017-06-01 12:27                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-30 15:43                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-05-31 12:08                                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                       ` <20170531120822.GL27783-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-31 12:39                                         ` Mike Rapoprt
2017-05-31 14:18                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                             ` <20170531141809.GB302-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-31 14:32                                               ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-31 15:46                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-01  6:58                                               ` Mike Rapoport
     [not found]                                           ` <8FA5E4C2-D289-4AF5-AA09-6C199E58F9A5-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-31 14:19                                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-01  6:53                                   ` Mike Rapoport
2017-06-01  8:09                                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                       ` <20170601080909.GD32677-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-01  8:35                                         ` Mike Rapoport
2017-06-01 13:45                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-02  9:11                                         ` Mike Rapoport
2017-05-31  9:08                               ` Mike Rapoport
2017-05-31 12:05                                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-31 12:25                                   ` Mike Rapoprt
2017-05-24 11:31                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-05-24 14:28                   ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2017-05-24 14:54                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-05-24 15:13                       ` Mike Rapoport

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